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Summary
Paul is joined by Samantha
Paul talks about a video he watched of a family harvesting their food, but a comment about only growing what they eat annoyed him as he felt they don't grow all the stuff they eat. He offers the example of a PBJ sandwich - you can't grow bread and jelly. You can grow wheat but getting from wheat to bread is hard work. It has to be threshed, winnowed and ground and even then you don't get bread like store bought flour; plus all the wheat has to be harvested when it's ripe, with a fairly narrow window.
When you grow what you eat, you start from what you get at the grocery store which can be a challenge.
Paul much prefers "eat what you grow" as a philosophy. For example learning how to eat the stuff the grows already with no effort. However he's frustrated by the huge majority of gardeners who are convinced it's all bullshit. As an example, today they spent 5 minutes getting sunchokes and onions to make soup.
Much of what's in the grocery store is selected for its shelf life, or for ease of machine processing, or for high profit so there's a limited choice.
They move on to talking about boot camp. The gardening gardeners program is a way of building a community. There are a lot of communities out there which you can buy into but people don't contribute where they should. In the boot camp, people are expected to put in 40 hours a week. In general this works well without the resentment which comes from people not contributing. Paul is trying to formulate good words to describe it.
Finally Paul went into Missoula to an Earth day event. When he arrived they were firing up a cob oven which was making smoke all over. There were many things which he knew could be better but he didn't want to rain on their parade, so he spent the whole time biting his tongue. He found the whole event disheartening.
Relevant Threads
permaculture bootcamp - gardening gardeners; grow the food you eat and build your own home
Podcast 716 - Gardening Gardeners - Part 1,
Part 2
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