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I had a new experience in Japan eating live prawns, it was amazing but not very green! Anyone else tried live fish?
I made a video of them still wriggling after I had eaten their bodies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJuilGX6Dk&t=10s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJuilGX6Dk&t=10s

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Its delicious one of my favorites but you have clean slice and add seasoning and of course you have to kill it. dont eat it alive.
 
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There are quite a few places where the fish is eaten live or nearly-live.  It can be delicious if done right - and once we get over the gross factor.  Shrimp is unlike anything I've ever had before or since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_live_seafood

I never could manage raw oysters.  That's a very popular live fish dish in parts of Canada.  Just something about pouring them down my gob from the shell is just too much for me to try.  
 
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There's a Japanese culinary tradition that is now frowned-upon, Ikizukuri because it involved the carving a fish into sashimi and serving it while still alive.

I mean, I wouldn't. If I were someone's food, I don't think I would want to experience being eaten.

But then, the oyster example, which I love. Shuck 'em, add a few drops of tabasco or other hot sauce, and down they go. I love them. I suppose I am something of a specist.

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This taboo seems to be culture specific .
I wouldn't do it,and yet I have baited a hook with a live worm.
Of course,  live is exactly how most non-human animals consume their prey.
Since I was a child,  I have had a horror of being paralyzed and slowly devoured, or eaten from within (bot fly anyone?) .
That other animals do it to one another isn't a reason to do it,  or not do it, it just offers perspective.
 
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A lot of taboo is from health reasons.  There are a lot of parasites that can transfer from animal to human if the flesh isn't cooked.  
 
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No thanks. I'm apparently rather 'speciest', too. I'll not judge, over raw oysters, and adore them, myself - but, as they have no brain, I've doubt of their sentience. Live mammals? Yup - I'll judge, on that one, so if you enjoy live monkey brains, for example? I don't want you in any part of my life. Period. Live 'anything with a brain', I can't get past what lodges in my mind as gruesome and vile. I've seen videos of people slicing into live fish, as they flop and squirm, in obvious pain, and it just seems extremely cruel, to me. The 'incomparable flavor' is simply not worth the cruelty, and I wouldn't be able to sleep at night, or look at myself in the mirror, if I did it. There's not much in this life that I'm 'judgey' about - but, apparently this strikes more of a revulsion nerve, in me, than even I knew.
 
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r ranson wrote:A lot of taboo is from health reasons.  There are a lot of parasites that can transfer from animal to human if the flesh isn't cooked.  



While that is true for freshwater fish, or fish that spend part of their lives in freshwater, the lack of parasites dangerous to humans is precisely why saltwater fish were virtually exclusively used for raw fish dishes.

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