• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • John F Dean
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ranson
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Jay Angler
stewards:
  • Liv Smith
  • paul wheaton
  • Nicole Alderman
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Matt McSpadden
  • Eric Hanson

Bloody goat discharge

 
Posts: 39
3
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
So I posted a while back asking if anyone thought my goats were pregnant.... they were/ are.  They are getting close to kidding I imagine( restless, mucus discharge, udders bagging up, pawing, etc. One of them squeezed the goo out you see in one picture and then for the last 24 hours as been leaking redish fluid you see in the other picture and having what look to me like contractions. This is my first go around with goats and ive read a ton in the last week and come to zero definate conclusions. Was wondering if anyone could chime in on the normalcy of this. Just first time worrying I guess. They are both eating, pooping and peeing fine and otherwise acting normal. Any experienced people that could give me their 2 cents would be awesome.
20200217_123435.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_123435.jpg]
20200217_124635.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_124635.jpg]
 
pollinator
Posts: 178
Location: Henry County Ky Zone 6
29
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hopefully you will see a water bubble come out and then a nose and two front hooves. Or two back hooves pads up. Sheep 201 has a good description of the birthing process (I would imagine goats are similar to sheep) Good luck!
 
steward & author
Posts: 37935
Location: Left Coast Canada
13422
8
books chicken cooking fiber arts sheep writing
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
How Exciting!
Getting close.  Could be 2 min or 2 days.

At this stage, I check on them at least once every 2 hours.  Which means very little sleep for the poor human.

Please keep us updated!
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I will keep you updated. The one with bloody discharge can't be having more than one. Doesn't even look pregnant. The other one seems like she has alot of babies in there. She's massive and super uncomfortable.
20200217_161421.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_161421.jpg]
Resized_20200213_151349_2691_1581973717036.jpeg
[Thumbnail for Resized_20200213_151349_2691_1581973717036.jpeg]
20200217_161245.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_161245.jpg]
20200217_161224.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_161224.jpg]
 
r ranson
steward & author
Posts: 37935
Location: Left Coast Canada
13422
8
books chicken cooking fiber arts sheep writing
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
nice full udders
 
gardener & author
Posts: 3086
Location: Tasmania
1843
7
homeschooling goat forest garden fungi foraging trees cooking food preservation pig wood heat homestead
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Do you have any more photos of the first goat? The thing on the ground in your first post looks like an amniotic sac. How long has it been since you saw that and the bloody discharge?

Is she still behaving like she's ready to give birth?

That second one is huge! Looks like you'll have some baby goats there very soon.
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Kate Downham wrote:Do you have any more photos of the first goat? The thing on the ground in your first post looks like an amniotic sac. How long has it been since you saw that and the bloody discharge?

Is she still behaving like she's ready to give birth?"

It came out yesterday afternoon. She was having what looked like contractions.  Seems fine. Eating, laying around, chewing cud, a little more vocal but haven't seen anymore contractions. Have seen her poop and pee and both appear normal. Udder feels puffy but not big.  Still leaking a slow drip though. Doesn't seem to be in any distress though. I'll get some more pics when I get home.

 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Also I clearly don't know how to quote and then answer lol.  It made it all a quote. Oh well here's some pictures. Another note the tan one is flagging her tail like she's in heat. Possible aborted baby and then right into heat? Is that possible?
20200217_194854.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_194854.jpg]
20200217_194449.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_194449.jpg]
20200217_194416.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_194416.jpg]
20200217_194626.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200217_194626.jpg]
 
Kate Downham
gardener & author
Posts: 3086
Location: Tasmania
1843
7
homeschooling goat forest garden fungi foraging trees cooking food preservation pig wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
That hollowness on her sides makes me think she's no longer pregnant. You could feel her right side and see if you can feel a baby there, or if you're not familiar with goat pregnancy and what the baby will feel like you could see if a nearby goat or sheep farmer could have a look.

What is her behavior like now?
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Behavior seems normal for her. Just a little more vocal and flagging her tail like she's in heat. Definitely had contractions for half a day and pushed that goop out though.  Eating fine. Drinking fine. Pee and poop looks normal. No more contractions that ive seen though.
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Here's one from this morning.
20200218_084337.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20200218_084337.jpg]
 
Kate Downham
gardener & author
Posts: 3086
Location: Tasmania
1843
7
homeschooling goat forest garden fungi foraging trees cooking food preservation pig wood heat homestead
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Looks like the discharge they get after a birth. If you feel the side of the dark goat (her right), you should be able to gently feel the shapes of babies and know what they feel like, then you can compare how that felt to how the side of the light goat feels.

If babies and placenta get retained in there, there can sometimes be problems. My guess is that it wasn't a proper pregnancy, or was miscarried, but I think it's important to be sure.
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Ok thank you for the info
 
Kris schulenburg
pollinator
Posts: 178
Location: Henry County Ky Zone 6
29
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
How is she doing?
 
pollinator
Posts: 1019
Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
369
kids dog home care duck rabbit urban books building writing ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The little I know about goat births is from the ridiculous number of vet shows I watch...that said, goats are generally swift, easy birthers. Any prolonged labor (two hrs?) is a big red flag in goats, especially as they so rarely have complications.  

It does seem the thin one has likely aborted. As there is no evidence of a fetus or afterbirth, I would be concerned she could have retained part of this - monitor her temperature for indication of infection. Monitor the smell (yeah, I know, gross...) of the vaginal discharge for change, any vile stink likely means big trouble and an immediate vet consult.
 
Jeremy Henley
Posts: 39
3
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thank you. She seems to be doing fine. I believe it was an abort for some reason. The other one is still very pregnant so hopefully that continues with no complications.
 
All that thinking. Doesn't it hurt? What do you think about this tiny ad?
Christian Community Building Regenerative Village Seeking Members
https://permies.com/t/268531/Christian-Community-Building-Regenerative-Village
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic