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Potsdam NY couple looking for a select few to join us as a family.

 
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I'm not sure what to say here, but I'll try this. Let's weed out those who will not be happy here.

You: individual, couple or family. wholesome, honest, caring, independent, hard working but enjoy rest and relaxation, experienced, but still a hunger for knowledge, liberal, yet understanding of personal needs, giving and can accept assistance. OH, considering the recent media reports, race, religion and LGBTQ friendly! Progress and not perfection attitude, non-tobacco user, light drink, prefer no drugs and definitely nothing that does not grow naturally (just ask). Should be able to provide your own income for health, auto and should you need...life insurance.

We are a early 50's couple. We have no children. We are both introverts who are comfortable in small groups. We are comfortable with ourselves and don't need others to enjoy life. But we are very aware that life can be rewarding when it is shared with others. We believe very good friends are what we are looking for rather than many acquaintances. Open communication and honesty is paramount in a true relationship. If an issue arises, it must be brought into the open. How can it be alleviated, otherwise? Religion is not a part of our life, but we are accepting of other's methods of finding and continuing peace. Please, just strive to live by those ideals. We are not artsy or frilly. We tend to be very "function over form" type of people. While "fair" tends to be relevant to who you are as a person, we are usually the type to give more than we expect in return. This gets us taken advantage of often (We are working on this). We aren't the type to "read between the lines". If we should know something, please tell us. This is why communication is necessary. We are both open in our relationship. I am experienced with both genders, she is not, but does not ignore the possibility. Both are accepting of committed, multi-partner relationship, but only with the right people, not just the right situation...if you can understand that. If not, again, just ask. We are practicing a plant-based whole foods diet. My understanding is that it is vegan without oil and processed foods. Yah, it sounds pretty strict. my wife is still learning the way to a healthier life. She wants me around a long, long time. She has longevity behind her in her lineage, I do not. I have seen results and believe in it so far.

We have been on this property for 4 years and still haven't been able to complete our house. We have shelter, but it's small and not very accomodating to someone who has a lot of interests like sewing, quilting, mechanics, electronics, woodworking, metalworking, etc.. Between the weather, other tasks needing to completed and age slowing us down, our forever home has been delayed. We wanted to share our home with others after it was completed. Now, we are looking for others to be a part of the construction. There is humbling to say that we need help. Perhaps others are feeling the same and need what we have to offer. Perhaps life isn't about "I" but is about "Us". Many people appear to believe life is about them and what should be theirs when we should be sharing what we have. There is more than enough property for sharing with someone else.

We are in the foothills of the Adirondacks. A short distance to the St Lawrence River, 6+ universities, ski slopes, cross country ski trails, a multitude of hiking possibilities, great fishing and hunting (oops, did I just say that?), international airports, low crime rates, 4 great seasons (Winter can be a bit long though, but manageable). We have great soil that warms in the sun weeks before the surrounding lands. The property provides us with wood, rock, sand, clay and food when we have time to plant. We are currently using solar for electric and hot water. We have no plans to be grid tied. Raising animals for meat isn't something we want to do. It is far too inefficient and unhealthy from our research. We are open for raising animals for transportation, and non-food products that they may provide. Wool or hair is the only thing that comes to mind right now.

Should we pursue a cash crop or other business from the property, incomes will be shared upon an agreed amount according to investment and work done. Just because we continue to own the property and equipment, that doesn't mean we take a major portion of the proceeds. We wish only to be able to provide a means to advance our shared goals independent of who owns what. We do not believe one person's labor, experience or knowledge should be a sole determination of a persons share of proceeds of a business we may create. Though, I have to say that we are not looking to get rich. We just want to love life, pay our taxes and have a place to call home for the rest of our lives. We see that the more people have the more they have to work to keep it. If you have to be working to be happy only to be neglecting your friends and family, please move on. We work to be able to live, we do not live to work.

Our property is paid for and owned solely by us. We have talked about selling a portion of it to another individual or couple, but we don't think that is what we desire. It should stay whole. We aren't looking to set up a planned community, but more of a family where this property will continue after we have left this earth. What happens then would be up to our successors.

We understand others will have desires and demands (should I say). It's normal to want to have your work protected and your future more secure. If you desire a more direct way of living, maybe we can be of assistance to each other. We would like to hear from you with your thoughts and desires.

We have plans of a year 'round heated greenhouse for off-season food growth, a larger barn/workshop for woodworking and machine shop. Many of our materials have either have been sourced or will be sourced from out property. We have built a gasoline powered screener and have plans to build a rock crusher and firewood processor. We are DIY'ers and would like others who are as well. If you are great support people, you could be welcome as well. We are looking for a few good people for long-term growth, sustainability and family.

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Example 1 as to what may happen:

We agree that you should join us on the property. We (you and us) build you a wofati large enough where we can live with you until our house is built the following year. We can provide many materials, steel, brick, rock, logs, beams, lumber, glass, doors, solar electric and water heat, etc. Whatever you provide is placed on account toward the ownership of the house, labor, furniture, etc.. The property remains ours. Over time, there are milestones that can be achieved after a review of our agreement to make sure we are all keeping up our part of the agreement. If fulfilled, your stake is increased. You are free to leave at any time with mostly labor invested. As long as you fulfill our agreement you can stay. Whatever is created while you are here, will be shared by us, if it was here before you came, it can be invested in...either by finances or labor.

Example 2:

We agree that you should join us on the property. We (you and us) build us a straw bale house large enough where we can live (we have a design and have started to dig). We provide materials, steel, brick, rock, logs, beams, lumber, glass, doors, solar electric and water heat, etc. Whatever you provide is placed on account toward the ownership in the house, labor, furniture, etc.. The property remains ours. Over time, there are milestones that can be achieved after a review of our agreement to make sure we are all keeping up our part of the agreement. If fulfilled, your stake is increased. You are free to leave at any time with mostly labor invested and may take with you some or all of what you may have invested. As long as you fulfill our agreement you can stay. Whatever is created while you are here, will be shared by us, if it was here before you came, it can be invested in...either by finances or labor.

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We want someone who will feel at home with us as a family. As you should be able to tell, we want to feel as a family.

We are flexible somewhat, but very forgiving and able to talk about any concerns you may have. Contracts are nice, but contracts can be broken. We feel we have to make this attempt to seek out others who desire the same type of life...even if they feel they cannot afford to live this way.

Well, here it goes. Nothing ventured is nothing gained! <Submit>
 
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Anthony would you mind if I emailed you? I would love to discuss. NY is not outside our range of possibility. It would put me a lot closer to my parents, but the winter is definitely a downside for us because of our plans to build a bamboo forest. It’s something that I need to research more, because I want to have something ready to harvest for my kids to build their own little houses when they’re older. It takes 5-8 years to mature, and would make a huge impact on saving our forests. I want to take the time to reply to each point you wrote about on your post. This may take me a while. I will say, reading it provoked great emotion for me because we share so many ideals. This is the way life should be. Shoot me an email at whitneysherbals@gmail.com
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