I have some hardy kiwis that I started on
trellis and russian olive and jumped onto a nearby
honey locust
these vines are very "growth oriented" more so than grapes.
the vines really
should be pruned occasionally to cut down the amount shoots and encouraging fruiting
pruning wil alsol limit the amount of damage done to trees and the trellis
the russian olive has been covered by vines for about 10 years yet still survives by sneaking enough new foliage out to keep it alive
it produces few fruits however.
any tree used for a support should be thought of as that
don't use any tree you want to produce
fruit or nuts
as an aside, I have finally been able to keep a male alive for three years
for some reason something has always happened to them
perhaps next year it will blossom and I finally get some kiwis