i seeded on rocky soil help

hi, i bought a new soil, its very good soil i think its called  loam soil . the issue that i seeded even the soil has small rocks, and its alot. when i watered day after day i started to see more rocks, and the lawn looks not good, i dont think its gonna grow healthy.

how can i fix thix ?

should i try to collect some of the bigger rocks only ? and add soil on top ?
or should i re prepare the lawn, clean the rocks and add top sil and seed again?

its winter now but never snow, we have 12 to 20 degree, i dont know if its good to reseed now.
this the the lawn you can zoom in to see rocks, its small rocks but its too much .

this is the picture

https://ibb.co/ngVmqBR
 



this pic after two weeks of grass seed.

anyone?

If it’s 12-20 degrees Fahrenheit you shouldn’t do anything. It looks like a lot of clay in your yard too. How much sun does it get? Where do you live. I’d like to help but need to know these things first.

many places through winter the freezing/thawing frozen ground will push rocks to the top. pick em out when you see them.
there are many successful farms in rocky soils in the east where conditions are much different than places like the great conditions in areas of California where rockless loam soil is 10 deep or more

Hi Abdalle;

Two weeks is not very long.   Grass takes time to fill in.
You do have more rock showing up than you should but its small.
Add more screened loam in small amounts. Bring up the soil level slowly, so you don't kill what new grass you have coming up.
Add more grass seed, you can't have to much.
Water regularly. And give it 2 months to fill in.
Then go purchase a lawn mower!
EDIT)   His temperature is in Celsius so its 40-70 F Your grass should grow better now then the heat of your summer!

thomas rubino wrote:Hi Abdalle;

Two weeks is not very long.   Grass takes time to fill in.
You do have more rock showing up than you should but its small.
Add more screened loam in small amounts. Bring up the soil level slowly, so you don't kill what new grass you have coming up.
Add more grass seed, you can't have to much.
Water regularly. And give it 2 months to fill in.
Then go purchase a lawn mower!
EDIT)   His temperature is in Celsius so its 40-70 F Your grass should grow better now then the heat of your summer!

Much agreement..

Scott Stiller wrote: If it’s 12-20 degrees Fahrenheit you shouldn’t do anything. It looks like a lot of clay in your yard too. How much sun does it get? Where do you live. I’d like to help but need to know these things first.

hey, i live in israel its 16 degree celsius = 60 fahrenheit .
so i assume im okay in this.

its not clay, its red soil i think you call is loam soil . but my luck was bad , i got to many rocks with it . im wokring on cleaning it and i will add more clean soil on top i will show you picture how its after cleaning some rocks:) this pic .

https://ibb.co/9rT3PSq

i cleaned as much rock as i can.  its look good now, i will add more top soil on it:) i will be fine ?

bruce Fine wrote:many places through winter the freezing/thawing frozen ground will push rocks to the top. pick em out when you see them.
there are many successful farms in rocky soils in the east where conditions are much different than places like the great conditions in areas of California where rockless loam soil is 10 deep or more

i cleaned as many rocks as i can, i will add more top soil on it . you can see its now after cleaning some .

https://ibb.co/9rT3PSq

thomas rubino wrote:Hi Abdalle;

Two weeks is not very long.   Grass takes time to fill in.
You do have more rock showing up than you should but its small.
Add more screened loam in small amounts. Bring up the soil level slowly, so you don't kill what new grass you have coming up.
Add more grass seed, you can't have to much.
Water regularly. And give it 2 months to fill in.
Then go purchase a lawn mower!
EDIT)   His temperature is in Celsius so its 40-70 F Your grass should grow better now then the heat of your summer!

thanks.

yes its 60 Fahrenheit. here in israel ,  and never snow here , in January  will be hard rain only.

i ordered clean soil to add on top gradually.  but I killed some grass I was making test. I divided the yard to two sections. one i  cleaned hard and  i will add top soil , the other one I will clean easy and add soil later :) you can see it here


https://ibb.co/9rT3PSq

edit post : 16 degree celsius not degree fahrenheit sorry.
celuis is our default word to use.

abdalla yasen wrote:

thomas rubino wrote:Hi Abdalle;

Two weeks is not very long.   Grass takes time to fill in.
You do have more rock showing up than you should but its small.
Add more screened loam in small amounts. Bring up the soil level slowly, so you don't kill what new grass you have coming up.
Add more grass seed, you can't have to much.
Water regularly. And give it 2 months to fill in.
Then go purchase a lawn mower!
EDIT)   His temperature is in Celsius so its 40-70 F Your grass should grow better now then the heat of your summer!

thanks.

yes its 60 Fahrenheit. here in israel ,  and never snow here , in January  will be hard rain only.

i ordered clean soil to add on top gradually.  but I killed some grass I was making test. I divided the yard to two sections. one i  cleaned hard and  i will add top soil , the other one I will clean easy and add soil later :) you can see it here


https://ibb.co/9rT3PSq

Actually it doesn’t look too bad!  Grass does take time and it doesn’t always take the first planting.  Good moisture, heat and good seed.  Sometimes it is the seed.  Make sure it’s quality seed meant for your climate.  

Janet Reed wrote:

abdalla yasen wrote:

thomas rubino wrote:Hi Abdalle;

Two weeks is not very long.   Grass takes time to fill in.
You do have more rock showing up than you should but its small.
Add more screened loam in small amounts. Bring up the soil level slowly, so you don't kill what new grass you have coming up.
Add more grass seed, you can't have to much.
Water regularly. And give it 2 months to fill in.
Then go purchase a lawn mower!
EDIT)   His temperature is in Celsius so its 40-70 F Your grass should grow better now then the heat of your summer!

thanks.

yes its 60 Fahrenheit. here in israel ,  and never snow here , in January  will be hard rain only.

i ordered clean soil to add on top gradually.  but I killed some grass I was making test. I divided the yard to two sections. one i  cleaned hard and  i will add top soil , the other one I will clean easy and add soil later :) you can see it here


https://ibb.co/9rT3PSq

Actually it doesn’t look too bad!  Grass does take time and it doesn’t always take the first planting.  Good moisture, heat and good seed.  Sometimes it is the seed.  Make sure it’s quality seed meant for your climate.  

its not bad but its hurts me when isee those big rocks haha.  i cleaned some i hope im fine now :) ..

do you think i should higher my lawn level to avoid raining drown my seeds?  or just i can reseed in spring right?

Well, you do need drainage for plants to grow. They don’t liketo sit in water but seeds need moisture to germinate.  So, you have to kind of watch your progress.

  I would add mulch as was suggested above and give it some time.  Just make sure you relax and enjoy the growth of your lawn!  You can re seed when you feel like you’ve gotten the most out of what you’ve planted.  Good seed !  

Some flowering plants would look lovely along the edges......

Janet Reed wrote:Well, you do need drainage for plants to grow. They don’t liketo sit in water but seeds need moisture to germinate.  So, you have to kind of watch your progress.

  I would add mulch as was suggested above and give it some time.  Just make sure you relax and enjoy the growth of your lawn!  You can re seed when you feel like you’ve gotten the most out of what you’ve planted.  Good seed !  

Some flowering plants would look lovely along the edges......

thanks i will.

i have another questions if you can help:

i bought a new reygrass seed too . i liked how reygrass looks

i wanna make a mix tall fescue ad reygrass should i make it 60% fescue and 40% reygrass and give it a try ?

will it be nice mix ?

What are your long term plans gor this spot; short grass mowing? Taller grass and flowers?  

Janet Reed wrote:What are your long term plans gor this spot; short grass mowing? Taller grass and flowers?  

i think taller grass and flowers looks better! why i may need short grass ?

That’s all up to you....assuming you have seed for perennial ryegrass you could let it and the other seed be longer or mow it short.

As far as flowers..you could make formalized beds around your grass...or maybe a walkway with beds.  Or you could just live it up; toss flower seed out into the grass and mow it all when you wanted. Not all flower seed is right for every kind of planting.  Some things are quite invasive and could take over your nice grass.  So I would suggest a plan of action first.  Just dwell on it as your grass grows.

I seed flax into my lawn edges early spring.  It’s so pretty and then I just mow it over at some point.

Janet Reed wrote:What are your long term plans gor this spot; short grass mowing? Taller grass and flowers?  

Janet Reed wrote:That’s all up to you....assuming you have seed for perennial ryegrass you could let it and the other seed be longer or mow it short.

As far as flowers..you could make formalized beds around your grass...or maybe a walkway with beds.  Or you could just live it up; toss flower seed out into the grass and mow it all when you wanted. Not all flower seed is right for every kind of planting.  Some things are quite invasive and could take over your nice grass.  So I would suggest a plan of action first.  Just dwell on it as your grass grows.

I seed flax into my lawn edges early spring.  It’s so pretty and then I just mow it over at some point.

edit : i cleaned rocks and overseeded heavy hand ! because there will be hard rain and  winds those days,i wish i get thick lawn now.

pic here :  https://ibb.co/8M0DL4n  

i added some  soil on top to cover seed, actually it was potting soil , i wish its hold the seed from winds and rains. :) i will update you later

You ate doing great!😀

Janet Reed wrote:You ate doing great!😀

haha i wish.

i had hard rain yesterday i think all my seeds moved away haha.
i will try to seed again in 2 weeks or even in spring