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Mushroom ID needed- Is this wine cap?

 
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Hi everyone,

I need some help with a mushroom ID, as you can read in this thread, last year I onnuculated a couple of beech sawdust beds with this spawn. In German it is called Braunkappe, but it is a Stropharia rugosoannulata.
Today as I walked past the beds I noticed three huge caps and a couple of small ones had emerged in the beds.
This is the first time I've seen these kinds of mushrooms in the beds, so far I had seen a couple of other ones which clearly weren't stropharia, so probably other spores also got blown into the bed. This is why I want to be absolutely sure of this ID of the mushroom seeing as the bed has been contaminated. I've also never smelled or eaten wine-caps before so I'm not at all confident about the ID yet.

Looking at pictures of wine-caps online, they do look very similar. But my mushrooms don't seem to have a ring around the stem, which seems to be an important indicator of the mushroom species. They do have a couple of white frilly bits stuck on the gills, so I'm wondering if those frilly bits could have been the ring that got stuck somehow?

Hope any of you can help me determine if I should fry these up these evening with some eggs, or chuck them back in the garden because they're not wine caps.
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This is the cluster of mushrooms I found
This is the cluster of mushrooms I found
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hand included for scale
hand included for scale
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this one's a little weird looking
this one's a little weird looking
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smaller specimen
smaller specimen
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cap of small specimen
cap of small specimen
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gills with white frilly thing stuck to it -- is this the ring?
gills with white frilly thing stuck to it -- is this the ring?
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no ring on the smooth stem, only this white thingies stuck to the gills
no ring on the smooth stem, only this white thingies stuck to the gills
 
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Looks right to me.


They lose the ring on the stem when the fruit reach full maturity and open out.

I’ve been picking mine daily for the past week.
 
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Michael Cox wrote:Looks right to me.


They lose the ring on the stem when the fruit reach full maturity and open out.

I’ve been picking mine daily for the past week.



Thanks Micheal, so those white bits attached to the gills might be what's left of the ring?
And how about that smaller specimen. I don't really see a ring around that one either.
 
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This one does have the ring - see where it is still closed up and the gills  are not exposed? When that thin membrane separates it leaves some on the stem and some one the rim.

If in doubt, go back to a proper ID guide. You might try a spore print, for example, as additional verification.

But they look just like what I am picking and eating at the moment.
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Ah got it! Thanks Micheal!

Would these already be too big to eat?
I've read they should best be eaten when small.
 
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Best eaten when smaller, yes, but those still look fine.
 
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I recently bought some mushroom jerky which is portabella mushrooms marinated in something and dehydrated - might be a great way to preserve larger wine caps?
 
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Howdy,

NICE mushrooms! I've never tried it, but some mushrooms are also pickled.
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