• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Anne Miller
  • Pearl Sutton
  • r ranson
stewards:
  • Leigh Tate
  • paul wheaton
  • Nicole Alderman
master gardeners:
  • Carla Burke
  • Beau Davidson
  • Jay Angler
  • John F Dean
  • Nancy Reading
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Casie Becker
  • Mike Barkley

Mulberry trees and sunchokes stripped of leaves

 
gardener
Posts: 4043
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio,Price Hill 45205
616
forest garden trees urban
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Last year I heavily pruned two mulberry trees.
This year they have all new growth, with green branches.
Last week I noticed the leaves were stripped from these branches.
I had already lost all the greens I planted out to some nibbler,  but these leaves were at 4 to 6 feet off the ground.
Today I noticed the same pattern on a nearby sunchoke.
I suspected a ground hog ate my greens, but the higher up damage has me confused.
Here is a photo of the damage:
20210613_195617.jpg
Something nomed on this, but what?
Something nomed on this, but what?
 
pollinator
Posts: 427
Location: South East Kansas
95
3
forest garden trees books cooking bike bee
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I am thinking it could be deer.  I gave my parents some sunchokes and the same thing happen to there sunchokes. And I know that deer can get in there back lawn.

Also, cool to see another person growing mulberry and sunchokes together! I planed sunchokes next to my mulberry tree this year.
 
pollinator
Posts: 241
63
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The stems seem to be intact.  I do not know their range but I have had leaf cutter ants decimate a mulberry tree before in a very short time. make a sticky trap and try to catch one.
Some caterpillars can strip the foliage off in a day or two as well. We have a swallowtail caterpillar that gets our citrus trees every so often.  They eat a few leaves, then drop off and hide in soil..repeat......  
Could be a deer or something too, looks for tracks or scat.
 
William Bronson
gardener
Posts: 4043
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio,Price Hill 45205
616
forest garden trees urban
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Wow, deer!?
Actually getting that makes some sense.
Cincinnati has lots of hillsides that are not worth building on, so they are covered in woods and deer, turkeys, coyotes,  etc make thier home in them.
I've never had deer in my yard,  but the yarden is a "vacant lot" around the corner from my house.
No dogs either.

Hmm.
Do you think they will eat young corn plants?
They haven't so far, but the corn is not protected at all
I was hoping to put off building crop cages till later,  since I was only worried about racoons eating the mature cobs.

I have also been feeding the soil under the corn with some old bottled pee, so maybe that is what's keeping them off the corn?
 
Posts: 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I have exactly the same problem. Someone posted that problem on the site 6 yr ago. Consensus - squirrels. This makes sense to me, since we have a family of rock squirrels living under our house.
 
I've been selected to go to the moon! All thanks to this tiny ad:
the permaculture bootcamp in winter (plus half-assed holidays)
https://permies.com/t/149839/permaculture-projects/permaculture-bootcamp-winter-assed-holidays
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic