making Jam in my bread machine

My bread machine has a jam setting.

It's pretty cool.

But the recipe sucks!  1 cup water, 1 cup sugar, 4 cups fruit, 1 packet "pudding powder" (it's poorly translated).  the cycle goes for 1h 20 min with frequent stirring.  My thermometer says it gets to 180F, but I might not be measuring at the hottest time in the cycle.

If I assume pudding powder is pectin, then it makes a runny jam at fridge temperature that is liquid with chunks at room temperature.

Experiment 1: No water added!
4 cup fruit
1 cup water
1 generous squeeze of lemon juice.  
Leave in a bowl overnight to make it juicy.  Put through the jam cycle.  Too runny, so add pectin and put through the cycle again.  Very nice.  Can 10 min water boil method.  Looks pretty thick in jars, but not quite perfect.

Experiment 2: more sugar added!
4 cup fruit
2 cup water
3 generous squeeze of lemon juice.  
Leave in a bowl overnight to make it juicy.  Put through the jam cycle.  ... and that's as far as I've gotten.  It will probaly need the second cycle as it tastes more like compote than jam.  If I cut up the fruit smaller the first time, I think it would be better.

it’s a newish bread machine and that first recipe came with it? i kinda wonder if ‘pudding powder’ is some kind of gelatin-based thing. i think a lot of modern packaged ‘pudding mixes’ are in that group - many are made by ‘jell-o’, after all.

either way, pretty cool that you have an automatic jam machine.

I wouldn't assume pudding powder = pectin. I've seen jam recipes that actually use pudding powder, like a package of instant vanilla pudding mix. I've also seen them with jello mix. Unless the English is really atrocious throughout, I would assume they mean what's written. And even then...

…even then, i think you can ignore it, ‘cause it seems like you’re closing in on perfecting your own recipe.

recipe two is canned.
and I think I should have tested if it was set first.
oh well.