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Rocket Mass Heater with Flash Boiler?

 
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IF:
   water + crazy hot = steam
   steam + turbine = electricity
   RMH = crazy hot

THEN:
   (water + RMH) + turbine = electricity

Could such a system be a viable source of steam to turn a turbine and generate electricity? Could such a system produce enough energy to charge, say, some battery banks or even be a viable energy independence solution? Anyone tried this? If the energy potential is there and the right sized turbine can be procured, I'd be interested in building a proof of concept RMH.

"Flash boilers heat only the quantity of water the system needs at a given time rather than all at once. Water is pumped constantly through the pipe and heated to steam. This style of boiler can quickly overheat if the water flow is stopped, but there are only several cubic inches of water being heated at any given time (depending upon the boiler size). Because of its significantly lower explosive potential, this quantity can be easily contained with a steel shell." https://cr4.globalspec.com/blogentry/11639/New-Hope-for-Steam-Power-Flash-Boilers

Steel shell... humm. What has a steel shell and gets crazy hot inside? Oh, what if there were a coil inside a RMH bell (usually the barrel part). That bell needs to be cooler than the riser anyway. (strictly speaking, this might be a monotube).

There is very very little online regarding steam driven off-grid power generation at a home scale. Most people online shoot down home steam ideas. Usually, they drone on and on about the safety. Something about the explosive potential of steam... If you have a safety concern, propose a constructive safety control.

Instead of: "It's going to run out of water, crack, and blow up! That's unsafe! Stop trying to invent things!"
Consider: "Make sure the material properties of the steam components can handle super-heated air, if/when they run dry. And consider a reliable water source/reservoir with thermal siphon so the water/steam circulates automatically. Test outside!"

Instead of: "Don't do that, you can't walk away from a steam system, it's too dangerous!"
Consider: "Well, since a responsible person monitors a RMH heater while in operation, maybe a well tested steam system might be manageable at the same time..."
 
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I like your post. I am too fascinated by the energy potential of the rocket stove.

Although I have no answer, I can think of a French inventor and youtuber called Barnabé Chaillot, who is working on a similar project. You will love his channel.

This is the video where he makes an aluminum furnace with a rocket stove. He says that next thing he will do with it is to create electricity...



Maybe you can contact him and ask him how his research is going. I dont know if he speaks English, though...
 
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Hi Ed, I have also thought about making power with a rocket stove. It seems to be a perfect fit for steam generation do to the high heat created in the heat riser. What really caught my interest was an episode of Jay Lenos garage. He featured one of his Doble steam cars that produces steam more or less instantly By way of coiled tubing in an enclosed area/drum. I looked into producing power with a tubine, but from what I was able to gather, they are way to loud for a domestic situation. Then, I tried to find a modest size steam engine, new or used, and found them to like hens teeth. I would still go with the turbine do to the fact they have sealed bearings, so no steam oil and the problems it creates.  I, myself have given up any hope of producing power, and have moved on to sucking every ounce of heat energy out of my build. That is going to include coils of copper pipe in the bell, attached to a radiator. So far, I'm looking at using a Davies, Craig 12v automotive auxiliary water pump combo to keep the water from boiling, and to pull the heat out of the system using electric fans. My situation doesn't allow any sort of mass, solid or water so, efficiency is what I have to work with. For your set up, I can envision the steam producing power, then being directed to a holding tank . As the water\ condensate leaves the tank, you would be able to harvest heat for your house\shop. That could be a nice system if you can get it to run. I am a fellow Washintonian, living in Seattle at the moment. It's Good to know there are other like minded people nearby!
 
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Hello,

I am thinking about building one of these that is claimed to be built by using off the shelf parts. I just ordered the plans and am anxious to build one.

here is the Link:

https://www.greensteamengine.com/
 
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