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FWIW:  yesterday we had 404 visitors and 1756 page views. 

Our all time record is 413 visitors in one day and 1912 page views in one day.

It just seems like a fair amount.  I thought I would share.

 
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I just happened to be looking and ...

For October we had 29,150 "visits" and 139,959 "page views"

So, about 1000 people per day.

Just thought I would mention it. 

 
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For december, a record month!

30,143 visits
198,033 pageviews

So while we have about the same number of people stopping by, we seem to have folks hanging around and looking at more pages.


 
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i tend to read them all
 
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According to Alexa the site is somewhat popular in Chile.

Rank: 810,756 globally, 188,169 in the US, 36,979 in Chile

 
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I was asked this today.  What is the largest permaculture web site?

And it got me thinking .....

I'm not sure.

I guess the first thought is "the amount of content - largest number
of web pages".  The second thought is "the traffic - largest numbers
of visitors"

My response was "uh ....  uh .... i dunno ... probably the australian
forums, but "

Something odd is going on over there.  One of their foums says it has
3030 threads.  But I can't seem to get more than 40.  I think they
lost a lot recently when they were down for a week.  So, is it
possible that they have only a few hundred threads, and therefore only
a few hundred web pages?

So ....  then I thought "Even I have more than that ...."

And then it hit me.

Oh shit.  I might have the largest permaculture web site in the whole
world.  It can't be me.  I'm just an obnoxious doofus.  It would be
like giving nuclear weapons to some nimrod that can't even say
"nuclear" correctly.

So, as awkard as this sounds, i would like the help of you all.
Please tell me the permaculture site that is bigger.

I have 2486 threads - so about 2500 web pages.

It looks like my numbers for january will wrap up at about 37,000
visitors and 230,000 pageviews.

Surely there is a bigger permaculture website.  Surely it isn't me.
 
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today's traffic ranks from Alexa.com

site world rank us rank
permaculture.org.au
187,279 158,437
permies.com
822,710 307,492
permacultureprinciples.com
992,015 560,910
permacultureactivist.net
1,091,854 258,500
permaculture.org
1,094,658 242,751
permaculture.com
this site has a forum but seems preoccupied with alcohol fuel book promotion
1,170,447 235,920
permaculture.net
2,662,996 not shown

 
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Ken Peavey wrote:
today's traffic ranks from Alexa.com

site world rank us rank
permaculture.org.au
187,279 158,437
permies.com
822,710 307,492
permacultureprinciples.com
992,015 560,910
permacultureactivist.net
1,091,854 258,500
permaculture.org
1,094,658 242,751
permaculture.com
this site has a forum but seems preoccupied with alcohol fuel book promotion
1,170,447 235,920
permaculture.net
2,662,996 not shown




Lower numbers are better numbers, right?
 
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"paul wheaton" wrote:Lower numbers are better numbers, right?



yes. 
there are 822,709 websites in the world with more traffic than permies.com

This is not a measurement of the number of pages available on a site, just the traffic

These statistics do not measure QUALITY either.  If it did, this site would rank considerably higher.
 
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So, due to the crippling of the austrailian site, permies is probably now the largest permaculture web site in the world.  Right?

Weird. 

Didn't see that coming.  I thought I might be like #20 or so. 

 
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I'll do some poking around. 

Dave's Garden is a considerable site, has some permacultural information but is not dedicated to permaculture.  Others sites also have limited sections geared to permaculture.  Most sites are informational with limited forum discussions.  I also see a lot of effort in selling design courses and books.

As far as forums, this place is at least #2.  Quite a feat!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:
For december, a record month!

30,143 visits
198,033 pageviews



Another record month in january:

38,233 visits
249,933 pageviews


 
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Ranking on 7 March
World Rank:  465,457
US Rank: 85,826

Now that permies.com is in the top 100k sites in the US, there is a graphic of traffic growth.

Looks like search engines are a key source of hits.
 
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Regarding Permies.com:

This is about the busiest and most visited permaculture forum that I know of with the potential exception of some Australian sites.



Quoted from this site:
http://www.permacultureactivist.net/maillists/emaillists.htm

The PRI site (forums.permaculture.org.au) took a big hit and subsequently upgraded the forum software.  Not much was lost during the chaos, but the new software default has been set up to only display a limited number of the most recent threads.  If you go to "general settings" (must be logged in as these settings apply to your account only), you can select an option to view "all threads" and the entire panorama will be again visible.

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Thanks for the info Bill. 

Even being the largest permaculture site in the US seems .... weird. 

Can you tell me if PRI gets more visitors than us? 



 
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Well, using Ken's alexa.com site, it appears you've reached an inflection point!  Note the crossover of the traffic lines.  Also note that the Australian PRI site is a total for the domain, with the statistics for the PRI forum traffic at about 71% of the total traffic.

Wow!  If I'm reading this correctly, congratulations are in order Paul!  Maybe Ken will chime in and validate my interpretation.

(Thanks Ken for the traffic tool!)



Permaculture.org.au’s Worldwide Traffic Rank
CountryRank
  Australia 7,293
  New Zealand 21,329
  Serbia and Montenegro 21,429
  South Africa 26,132
  Chile 30,802
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Where Visitors Go on Permaculture.org.au
SubdomainPercent of Site Traffic
forums.permaculture.org.au71.6%
permaculture.org.au18.8%
photos.permaculture.org.au9.6%


 
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That's what it looks like to me.

Open the Moet.
 
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It looks like we pulled ahead just in the last couple of days. 

Wow.  It still seems hard to believe.



 
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paul wheaton wrote:
Another record month in january:

38,233 visits
249,933 pageviews



March isn't over yet, but up through last night:

50,631 visits
269,186 page views

 
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Normally, I see a spike in traffic here due to a book promotion, or a big mailing I did or something like that. 

Lately, traffic has been steadily rising a little bit every day. 

When I look at the march stats, there are a few spikes.  The beginning of the month had about 1100 visitors a day.  The end of the month was more like 1800 a day.  There have only been three days in april so far that had fewer than 2000 visitors.  Yesterday was 2313.  With 20,647 pageviews.

So .... wow ... the site is growing a helluva lot.



 
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There is some activity going on to be sure...

Stats on 17 April 2010

US Rank 17,460
World Rank 149,273

Its even got a review, 5 stars.
(momentary break)
Having trouble logging in or it would have a 2nd 5 start review
 
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April isn't over yet, but it looks like we're gonna hit half a million page views and 70,000 visitors.

Current alexa rank is 123,903

 
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paul wheaton wrote:
FWIW:  yesterday we had 404 visitors and 1756 page views. 

Our all time record is 413 visitors in one day and 1912 page views in one day.

It just seems like a fair amount.  I thought I would share.



It is roughly one year later.  Yesterday we had record traffic of 4,149 visitors.  We had 18,977 page views, but the page view record was set on the 12th with 26,159.

Today, our alexa rank is 96,551. 

Wow.





 
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May had 573,022 page views and 86,893 visitors.

Alexa rank is now 88,909

 
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I always keep some around, just in case

 
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We leveled off for a bit over the summer, but september did beat may for visitors:  92,152

As of yesterday, permies.com has received 695,173 visits in 2010.  If we could get a little more than 100,000 visitors per month for the last three months of the year, we will break a million.
 
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Woohoo!

Another record month!

For october we had 101,410 visitors and 691,727 page views!

 
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sweet!
only problem is ifn it gets much busier I won't be albe to read everything
 
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Yesterday we set a record for the number of people that visited in one day - normally, we break that record a couple of times a week.  But this time, we broke 10,000:  10,113.

And that's with 143,586 page views.

Our alexa rank is now 77,004.

 
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Since I'm looking to get over a million visits for 2010, and we changed hosts a couple of weeks ago, I want a place to keep track of the numbers.

Total visits through october:  737,105 (I just rechecked - and this number is accurate - so I must have added wrong on oct 2)

November 1-8 on old host:  27,507 visits (138,905 pageviews)
November 8-23 on new host: 88,422  (533,281 pageviews)

November 1-23: 115,929 (672,186 pageviews)

 
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Nov 24 - 30:  29,639 (185,231)

nov:  145,568 (857,417)

jan 1, 2010 - nov 30, 2010:  882,673





 
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December traffic as of midnight last night: 111,637

Total traffic for 2010 so far:  994,310

We need 5,690 more visitors by the end of 2010 to get to one million.

We average about 6000 visitors per day - so maybe tomorrow? 
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I never log off, so I suppose I only get counted once?
 
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Tinknal wrote:
I never log off, so I suppose I only get counted once?



Even if you logged in and out a thousand times, you would still get counted as one.

If you had 30 friends over to your house, using your connection, they would all count as one.

 
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Traffic yesterday: 8062 visits.

2010 traffic as of midnight last night:  1,002,372

 
                          
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paul wheaton wrote:
Even if you logged in and out a thousand times, you would still get counted as one.

If you had 30 friends over to your house, using your connection, they would all count as one.




So I guess my weekly "Permies.com beer bash"  isn't helping out at all huh?
 
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I'm sure it is helping, just not helping with the visit count!

 
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So this is one million people that were either already permaculture enthusiasts, or through permies they have learned about permaculture for the first time. 

I'm gonna pretend that this is changing the world for the better. 
 
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Pageviews Jan 1 to nov 8 on old host: 4,745,960
Pageviews nov 8 through last night on new host: 1,271,453

Pageviews for 2010 so far:  6,017,413

 
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