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Hawthorn species and sourcing

 
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I really love Hawthorn and want to plant one along with my sweet cat who passed away. Obviously, this will be a special tree. I would like it if the fruit could be used for medicine. I know technically they all are fairly interchangeable for that, but I'd imagine some have tastier and/or more medicinal fruit than others. Sadly, there don't seem to be many Hawthorn trees around me, though there are a few species which are native. Otherwise, I'd just go visit them, try the fruit and see which I liked best. So I'm hoping that some of y'all have experience with Hawthorn and would be willing to share which species you think have the best fruit. Hardiness of the tree is also important to me.

Another thing is that I've been having a very challenging time finding Hawthorn trees anywhere to buy. I would prefer a native species, as I'd like it to be the most useful for birds and pollinators too. I haven't found many places that seem to offer these trees. When I do, it's usually cultivars that are more ornamental, which I don't want. Any recommendations for sourcing, preferably from permie type places would be greatly appreciated as well.
 
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I've grown them from seed. Not too difficult, although you do need to cold stratify them in the fridge for like 4 months (in a moist paper towel in a ziplock bag).

Sheffields has a ton of different species, maybe you can find seeds of one of the native ones local to your area: https://sheffields.com/seeds-search/s_genus/Crataegus/characteristics_sum_type/1
 
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Hawthorn is one of those trees that will come up from any roots left in the ground.  One was planted on this farm for medicinal purposes and burned with the house but one cam up in the surviving lilac and 2 more in the quince hedge.  The original stump was dug up to put in the new foundation.   I could send you fruit for seed or root cuttings. The fruit is like rose hips about the size of the tip of the little finger.
 
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Muster Forests, Inc is carrying Washington Hawthorn In 2022
https://www.musserforests.com/prod.asp?p=WAHA

Burnt Ridge Nursery & Orchards has Black Hawthorn
https://www.burntridgenursery.com/searchprods.asp






 
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there’s a single tree of some very large and tasty-fruited chinese cultivar in the yard of a chinese medicine clinic locally that several of us locals have grafted at our places. if you can find a suitable rootstock (washington hawthorn is probably the most widely available), i can send some scion wood. and, y’know, give grafting pointers if needed…

are the thorns actually part of what you want? i’ve seen a couple places (one green world comes to mind) that sell grafted chinese haw (no thorns) trees. the one i have is thorny.
 
                                
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Greg, I would love some scion wood from that Chinese tree.
 
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