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Left alone on private property in Arkansas, Colorado, Wyoming, or Oklahoma?  RSS feed

 
Melisha Knutzer
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I am looking to purchase land for homesteading 8 people. I was told in Texas as long as you owned over 10 acres you could pretty much do what you want, ie bury deceased, grow food, farm livestock. We pretty much want to be self sufficient without being bothered too much by the "government" Can anyone tell me if this same thing is true in Arkansas, Colorado, Wyoming or Oklahoma?
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Well my experience in Colorado is that you not only have to deal with government types but also neighbors who will turn you in to the Gov. There may be some places if you get way out in the sticks and keep quiet about what you are doing.
There are places in Wyoming that are still pretty free. I have a friend who bought several acres and built a nice house with no covenents and very few government hoops, in Crook County. Again get away from town and be careful who you let on your property. Loose lips sink ships !
 
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Wow, thank you so much. Starting out it will likely be just my daughter and I. I havn't quite convinced everyone else to move, but looks like if they want to survive they may not have a choice, and well family is family. I will let them in I have been a single mother for eight years raised two others who have flown the coop so to speak. Now just us two, and I am preparing. Any special areas would be great, we are looking for a camper that I can attach solar panels to. Need to be near a river or spring. Anyway, any ideas and advice would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
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For somebody looking to relocate to an area with little government "in-your-face", rural Arkansas would be at/near the top of my list. Property taxes are very low compared to most other states - they provide few services, therefore it costs little to run the county. I have had many locals tell me that if you are on acreage out in the country, there are no building codes/permits. Do as you damned well please.

RuralTennessee is right there with them as far as property taxes/county services. I think TN pushes building codes more (but the tax man only visits once per 6 years).

In either place, bare land (no houses) can be very affordable.
I seriously looked at several properties in each of those states, and really liked what I saw.

 
Melisha Knutzer
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Thank you i was wondering about arkansas. I have googled a few real estate listings and it is beautiful with plentiful hunting and abundance of water. And the prices are very reasonable. How many acres do i need to be lookig for? Like i said for now it is just my daughter and i, lol two girls, but i am also preparing for family. Probably 8-12 total, if my older brother decides to bring his family along. Maybe i can check out a cave.....
 
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Melisha, I sent you a PM
 
Daniel Morse
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Remember they are always watching and the people will make up stories just to see you fall. I dug a hole in my yard and code was all over it. Get away from people and be quiet about it. I went to hook up electricity and suddenly I need all these permits and codes. I could have just moved in and no problems IF I had played the game better.
 
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I don't know what part of Texas you're referring to, but it's not that simple to bury people on private land here no matter where you're at. You have to have a bond to provide for perpetual care of the site, for one thing. I'm pretty sure that's a state requirement and not a county rule peculiar to Parker County.
 
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I did not see he part about dead bodies. But IF i had one I would do a funeral pyre. Ashes to ashes so to say. Burn up all the strange chemicals from our diet. Better for nature. How the heck did we get to dead bodies. Too much coffee today,.....
 
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WWOOFer POSITIONS AND HOUSING, COMMUNES, OFFGRID AND LAND BUYING AND SITES


The following should help you and check out woofer positions


check out the farming communities to find volunteer work


http://www.twelvetribes.org/locations/farms




https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/internships/index.php



http://www.workaway.info/



http://www.growfood.org/





http://reach.ic.org/postings/





http://www.growfood.org/posts/all


http://www.ic.org




http://www.off-grid.net/


http://reach.ic.org/


http://www.off-grid.net/forum/


http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/forumdisplay.php?f=57


http://forums.homestead.org/forum_topics.asp?FID=3&title=general-homesteading


http://friendshipagenda.com/groups/profile/529


http://intentionalcommunity.tribe.net/


http://earthship.com/pockets-of-freedom?utm_campaign=freedom_map&utm_source=newsletter_8_21_12&utm_medium=email here is your state by state county by county listing of what freedom you can have to build whatever etc etc
http://buckmountainexperimentalstation.org/


http://www.sustainable-properties-forsale.com/adverts/SP0009/fd_SP0009.html


https://www.couchsurfing.org/login


http://survivalistsingles.com/


http://allaboutintentionalc.forumotion.com/


http://www.nycga.net/groups/occupy-farms/


http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/index.html


http://www.lovesetfreeproject.org/consultants/free-food-and-shelter-list-nationwide/


http://www.cohousing.org/


http://www.wwoofusa.org/


http://www.craigs-list-search.com/


http://www.livingoffgrid.org/


http://www.forumslister.com/

http://landsharecanada.com/

http://www.permies.com/forums/f-27/WWOOF-organic-farm-volunteers-interns

http://www.permies.com/forums/f-6/community



Land buying sites + auctions

go to http://www.auctionzip.com/ put in the zip code and pick farm or land


http://www.e-farmcredit.com/Benefits/LandforSale/tabid/609/Default.aspx scroll down for lands for sale then click auctions


also use craigslist pick your city then click realestate


http://www.landsalelistings.com/usa/


http://www.realtor.com/


http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/e-farmcredit/index.cfm?action=searchByCounty


http://www.landandfarm.com/search/


http://www.landincorporated.com/


http://www.buckinghammint.com/index.htm
 
Eugene Probst
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I live in Mannford Oklahoma in creek county just out side of Tulsa a 40 min drive. I have had this piece of property for about 8 years now and the man I got it from carried the note his family owns most of the area. he sells you the land and keeps the mineral rights.
The land I have is outside of city limits 10 acres.
In creek county you can live in a shack if you want, but with the land he will put in your water tap and septic tank. my land is in the cross timbers forest and has a creek that runs right through it.
it was the last lot in this track because people out here what flat land so they can have cows. now the ground out here is not great but in the last four years I have taken it from poor to pretty good, it just took mulching and mushroom spores to clean up the oil well scares. I am building a food forest and the creek and the oaks are great for that.
now getting to Tulsa with the 40 mile drive I use a 2000 VW beetle diesel gets about 550 miles to the tank and cost about 40 dollars fill it. the next car I will be getting is a cng they are great out here because we have a lot of filling stations and it only cost about 1.20 a gallon.
now about getting a job, if you can not find work out here, then you do not want to work!
Hope this helps, if you want to know more just ask.
 
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