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New to pigs,. Farrowing gilt issue

 
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We are new to pigs. Have two pregnant gilts (kune kune x). One gave birth yesterday evening but had only 2 piglets. She is still laying down and 12 hrs later still no more piglets. Went inside up to elbow and could not feel any more piglets. She took molasses and warm water yesterday, but not interested in more this morning.
Grunts when she hears us and allowing the two piglets to feed. Any tips, advice, or insights please?
 
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We've raised pigs.  Husband grew up on a pig farm.  I suspect if she's not straining and no abnormal or smelly discharge she just had a small litter.  Is she eating and drinking?  Did she pass the afterbirth.  She probably ate it if she did, but are there any cords or anything hanging out?
 
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Surely someone more knowledgable will help. In the meantime...I'd keep a close eye and consider giving her heavy immune booster foods/herbs/meds since you had to go in. That can be such a tough decision but introducing a lot of bacteria is certainly a concern. Watch for fever and any signs of infection (smell, discharge, etc). With small ruminants we'd feed calcium too to help, give selenium shots and b vitamins to help with a stressful labor. I'm not sure if there are similar protocols for pigs.

Are you confident there were no more babies?
 
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Were they bred when they came to you? Relocating pregnant animals can stress them out and cause abortion. Two is better than none!
 
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I raise Kunes.  I would call my vet immediately.
 
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How's she doing today?
 
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Judy Bowman wrote:How's she doing today?
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Hi Judy, (and all the other kind folk that responded to this thread). Thank you for your input!
We are confident there are no more piglets inside. She seems to be doing well, eating and drinking plus caring for the two little ones.
It's possible that is all she had, or else we came late to the party and she had already dealt with sick, weak or stillborn.
We did witness her eating a placenta, and now feel she may still have had some placenta remaining, ergo the signs of labor still at the time.
We kept her energized and hydrated with a water and molasses mixture.
Since we had to go internal, even though we tried to be as clean and sterile as possible, we are administering oregano oil and teatree oil in her water.
Contacted the vet this morning to try and get some antibiotics. They will call back later with an answer.
I know they are "funny" around here about giving out drugs without the animal being checked first, but in this case, since it is a precautionary measure, they may relax on that for us. So far momma and the two babies seem to be doing okay. Damn, they are cute, lol. Two girls.

 
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That sound great. I myself wouldn’t worry much at this point. Just keep an eye on her. They’ve taken all the OTC livestock antibiotics off the shelves. The rules are strict about vets having to actually see the animal. If you’re straight up lucky you might find an old retired one with nothing to lose. The whole thing sucks. Anyway, if find any penicillin or oxytet in some obscure place, grab it.
 
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