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Maybe I've already asked this and forgot the answer ...

What if you have a bucket of people poop and you put EM in there?

 
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Effective Microorganisms.

Of course, if you supplied enough electromagnetic radiation, that would sterilize it...

The answer I recall appearing on Permies a while ago is that it would continue to smell like poop for a while, but the smell wouldn't get worse.
 
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  My dog always wipes his bottom dragging it along the dirty Madrid pavements and a vet said that some dogs do this and that it helps them empty a smell gland they have in their anus which can get too full and the then proceeded to hand enpty it ,i don't remember why he thought that was necessary.
    Sooo, it is just that not that pop smells, animals smelly it up. a good bit of unfeminine behavior. 
     How long does pop smell really strong for?

     I saw a you tube video of a nice american woman talking of permaculture and a adventurouse and unsqueamish one, she said that properly dealt with, you can have a bucket of pop on the kitchen table and no visitor would know it was a bucket of pop. Great, my mother used to hang her knickers to dry above the aga stove, cooker, which always seemed curiouse to me, on the rack for pan lids. She was generally a sensible and principally celebral person.
One better than paul wheatons drying arrangements. To give drying in the kitchen its due,  my grandmother, tremendoulsly efficient woman, had a pulley contraption in the kitchen for hanging clothes on. I saw them selling one in IKEA once but not again when i had the money to buy it.
  The permaculturist who talks of keeping buckets of pop in the kitchen seems to think you want to keep pop and such as close to living quarters as possible to remedy it if it starts to smell, which means its decomposition is not going as it should.   
     Apparently there is a permaculture book on how to deal with human pop. I don't suppose it would involve killing all microbes in it as they would be wanted to break down the substance, the break down should kill pathogens i suppose. If not the earth and plants in the earth should. Look up Rain Gardens and Chicago Alleys.
      My brother is in the money world and says pop is a comodity and farmers do buy it and human pop spread. I had a uncle who fought for it for black gold as he or his group called it. H ewas a bit of  apig he coudl never be bothered to answer my aunt if she spoke and walked around looking so superior because he didnot speak. He made her look stupid and looked cool at h er expense. agri rose macaskie.
     
 
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A bit off topic:  my understanding is that dogs drag their butts like that because they have worms. 

My guess is that EM would make everything in the bucket disappear.  Maybe even with a few days.  But I've never used EM, so this is just a wild guess.



 
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paul wheaton wrote:
A bit off topic: my understanding is that dogs drag their butts like that because they have worms.


Slightly further down the off-topic road:
Nope, "driving" is a symptom of clogged anal glands (glands used to make poop come out easier and to give it the "personal smell").  My wife just loves expressing anal glands (squeezing and making them squirt)!

paul wheaton wrote:
My guess is that EM would make everything in the bucket disappear. Maybe even with a few days. But I've never used EM, so this is just a wild guess.



Also from what I remember, EM was similar to what you find in septic tank "booster" (like Rid-X), which is supposed to eat poop.  What they excrete?  I dunno...  So I imagine if they EM likes the poop environment, you'll loose the people poop and gain EM poop.
 
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Yeah jeremy bunang i understood that dogs cleaning their bottoms, dragging them on the ground  meant they had worms, thats why i asked the vet about it any way their were no signs of worms, and he said what i reported above. My dog always did  butt sliding, i am not sure he is doing it any more now he is old.
            Please tell me your wife likes to squeeze anal glands in the metaphorical sense sort of push you mentally not in the real physical sense, though really i can take it either way. Is it really off topic to talk of why pop smells the way it does? Smells are so much a part of farming or used to be- Now, here, the goat herd said the weekenders complained about his goat pop. We are getting so refined there wont be any pop even in the country anymore. OWuldn't our glands be the cause of  pop being so very pungent at first.
  I read that animals don't eat the popped grass for sometime after the pop has dropped that would put a time limit to animals pasturing the same feild. I suppose if they'er really hungry they have to grin and bare contaminated grass.
  Dirty Jobs, included, i believe a cattle poped place, which seemed strange to me, on the farm though human pop and dog pop had us a bit neurotic, cattle pop and horse pop was totaly accepted. Could not have gone near dog pop and did not at all mind cleaning out the stables, or the precense of men in overalls covered in cow pop be it in the kitchen or anywhere else. farming is just a popy buisness.
      I had a freind with a goat, the girl he tried dateing found he had come to pick her up in the car, his only car, he carried the goat in. She would not get in the car, modern attitudes to pop do make things hard for guys in the country. Here the guys stay in the villages and the girls get out, go to the towns and so there are no wives for them. This maybe because the land gives employment to the lads and not the lasses though. Peter Andrews the australian permaculturist whose life went a bit difficult lost his wife and farm had a wife wife looked towny and he lost her in theory because of the permaculture though you can lose youor wife with or without permaculture and your money too. You have to know an awful lot to know whats to blame for a divorce an d for going broke maybe the wife wqqanted to manyu luxouries and did not mind accusing him but he was not so hot on accusing her and maybe he was usless who knows. Maybe she wanted an expensive education for the children and he wanted to spend on the farm, which is right who knows.
  My comments were about pop and hygene matters and so on theme but maybe they were unessecary. agri rose macaskie.
 
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No Rose, unfortunately it's in the real physical sense that she does it.  She's a veterinarian and has to deal with impacted anal glands all the time...    Worms rarely  have anything to do with scooting.
 
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Well it becomes a very respectable occupati0on if she's a vet. I can bare things if there is a good reason for them.
  I think  my husband would say i pressed his anal glands when he drove but he takes all your friends and then finds my complaints to much for him it is a lot worse to have someone who puts all off using your faults but also using straight lies, and manages to change friends into people who are trying to do to you what he  wants them to do, so no longer relating to you in a normal way, than to have to bare another's complaints. His family are, not turn the other cheek or a cheek for a cheek they are you step on my toe and you'll learn never to do that again. It rather obliges you to open fire on them and keep the fire going.  rose macaskie.
 
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