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Plant ID - yellow flowers (Elecampane)

 
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I don't even remember planting this lovely thing! About 4ft tall with thick leaves and flowers almost 3in across. I thought it might be a division from my arnica, but that has short, fine petals that are quite wriggly. Any other ideas?
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Could it be Elecampane (Inula helenium) or horse dock?
 
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Elcampane?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecampane
Mine have just finished blooming.
They seem to do ok during our dry summers and my two clumps have come back for a few years now.
And yes, lovely flowers

I haven't made use of it medicinally because I don't want to sacrifice any for the roots.
 
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Thank you both! I don't remember getting it, but I suspect I was interested in it's anti-inflammatory properties. It certainly seems to be happy where it is, and I won't mind having more of it. According to pfaf it can be divided, propagated by root cuttings and is self fertile, so lots of potential there.
 
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Nancy Reading wrote:Thank you both! I don't remember getting it, but I suspect I was interested in it's anti-inflammatory properties.



I thought that sounded plausible when I read the PFAF description ..

Nancy Reading wrote:It certainly seems to be happy where it is, and I won't mind having more of it. According to pfaf it can be divided, propagated by root cuttings and is self fertile, so lots of potential there.



Hoorah!

ETA: PFAF refers to their ref. 115 Johnson. C. P. 'The Useful Plants of Great Britain' as saying it's a strongly flavoured potherb. Could be a way to start finding if you tolerate it before exploring medicinal uses?
 
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Ac Baker wrote:PFAF refers to their ref. 115 Johnson. C. P. 'The Useful Plants of Great Britain' as saying it's a strongly flavoured potherb. Could be a way to start finding if you tolerate it before exploring medicinal uses?



Maybe, although as a potherb I believe the leaves are used whereas medicinally it is the 2 - 3 year old roots (which apparently smell of bananas when fresh!). So as with any new thing I'd have to try a very little before taking larger amounts. It does sound like fun though, as well as being a plant happy in damp shade (which apparently cover the whole of Scotland !)
 
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