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Hi poopers
Im wondering whats the best looking compost toilet as we are setting up a B&B and will need 9 that look pretty good. I suppose I mean that look similar or better than conventional toilets.
Does anyone have experience of these toilets on this scale ?
any links of info will be greatly appreciated.
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For a B&B where you want guests not to be freaked out by your composting toilet, I suspect the answer may be to buy one of the commercial composting toilets that have a large composting chamber in the basement, so that the guest sees a black hole rather than a pile up near his face. If you need to have rooms on the upstairs that would be more difficult.

In order to keep it in ship-shape order for strangers you probably want to have an electrical venting system, as well.
 
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Thanks Rebecca,
We will need toilets in the upstaires area so that will be a challenge !
Do you have any links that I can check out on line ?
We will be setting up in spain.
thanks again
rosie
 
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Sorry, I don't have links handy. I once spent several days searching for possibilities for a somewhat similar situation. There were at least 6 different companies with different designs in the US. I'm sure in Europe you'll find as many choices. Clivus Multrum from Sweden is the respectable grand daddy of commercial composting toilets, but you will find many different ones.

If you have space, go for the ones with a bigger chamber in the basement. I got the impression that user's feedback was better for those. Smaller units with moving parts or more frequent action by the owner seem to have more problems. If you get a fly infestation it will be really bad press for your B&B!

Do you have running water as an option? Are there some guest rooms downstairs and some up?
 
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we will have running water and a few rooms downstaires.
I guess I'll have to haev a goos search session on the internet.
a ... eh... fly infestation ?? eh how does that happen ??
sounds terrible
 
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http://www.envirolet.com/

They have a system that will work in 4 star accommodations, although it is priced accordingly. DEFINITELY go with a remote chamber version, I am 99.999% positive your business would be shut down by the dept of make you sad if you used any of the self-contained composters. You should double check with code enforcement and your B&B regulations CAREFULLY (you don't want to raise suspicions)
 
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Our family is currently using the hinged top sawdust bucket system out of The Humanure Handbook (http://www.weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html) but will be switching to the EcoDry Porcelain Urine-Diverting Toilet (more conventional look) eventually. link http://www.ecovita.net/ekologen.html
In the past we had the big plastic thrown type (Envirolet® waterless self contained) but found moving the tray of uncomposted slop rather gross. It did not work as proclaimed. The bucket style has worked well for over ten years.
 
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I agree with the above. The sawdust bucket is great for a family or small group of committed people. The small self-contained commercial composting toilets that you could install in 2nd floor bathrooms have never looked like a good choice to me, for various reasons including what Dave mentioned above. I think composting needs enough space so that you can leave the contents there for enough time, eg one year...

I have heard a lot about urine diverting toilets and share house with a passionate believer in the concept (though our current toilet is all mixed). But from what I've read and the few units I've seen, it seems to me like a urine separating seat is again, only good for a committed small group of users, not for a changing clientele of B&B guests. I've heard that first time users and small children might foul the urine part of a urine separating seat.

For a B&B, you need something that looks as much like a standard toilet seat in the bathroom as possible, and that has a "remote chamber" ie a large composting chamber directly below, with a wide enough chute not to get fouled.

Active electric ventilation doesn't use a lot of power, and is very helpful for preventing events that would alarm guests, like any fly or smell problem. It keeps the pile dryish, and keeps the air moving from the bathroom, through the toilet and out o the building, never the other way into the room.
 
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We have just bought two vacuum composting toilets, and having them upstairs would not pose a problem AFAIK. Just marking this thread for when my husband gets home. He'll know the details.
 
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Envirolet is where we bought ours from.
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