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I grow Yard long beans (snake beans, asparagus beans) every year. They are the only fresh eating beans that do well in our hot dry summer.  It's pretty common to get aphids in mid to the end of August. This year it hit hard at the beginning of July, and it's
the worst infestation in a long time. I sprayed them with water several times and released ladybugs. It was a battle, but the ladybugs are winning the war. Buggy Beans are pretty unappealing, so lots of them dried on the vine.
Is it worth saving the full size dry beans to replant? Will it affect future growth? Do you think it could make them more resistant to aphids, or maybe more attractive to them?
What do you think?  Save them, or toss them?
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I grow those and also red noodle beans.

We get a few aphids every year and I've started leaving them for the ants to farm.
This year had only one bean with an aphid farm and it still went on to make seed and I did save it with the rest.   I wish now I had kept those seeds separate in case they are special

The year aphids were the worst here was when I thought the long beans needed extra nitrogen and gave them the watered down pee bucket whenever they needed water....then I read that excess nitrogen would attract aphids and it had apparently done that since when I stopped the aphids declined.

We love the long beans for a reliable summer crop like you mention.
 
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i grow noodles and normal climbing string beans, planted at the same time.
the string beans succumb to aphids way before the noodles, which is fine since the noodles take longer to grow. They eventually also get ruined by aphids, but it takes longer and I get better yields off both. (this happens every year regardless of weather, but some years are better or worse than others).
Might be worth next time planting some other pole beans as a trap crop!
As for your seeds, I would save them anyway.
 
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I grow red Chinese noodle beans and save the seeds even in bad years (except moldy ones), at least from best looking plants. Then I mix the seeds up. And give some away. At least that way you can sow more thickly and replant if crop gets destroyed early on (looking at you, bunnies).
 
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Thanks everyone, I will save some of the best beans. I bought a package from red long beans and planted them with the beans I saved from the year before.

Judith I heard that excess nitrogen attracts aphids too. I always sprinkle in a mix of organic fertilizer like green sand, azamite, bone meal, blood meal, and biolive. Then I top the bed off with compost. It's such a small amount of nitrogen, and organic is supposed to take quite a while before it's available to the plants.  I thought maybe over the years it's accumulated, but one of the beds had to be redone because the hardwire cloth on the bottom slipped out of place, making a space for the gopher to get in, so it's essentially a new bed, but maybe not, because I did reuse the same soil. I don't know anything is possible.  I didn't do anything different than I normally do.
I have a cattle panel trellis, so I always grow beans and peas in this spot, and they are supposed to be nitrogen fixers, so maybe that has something to do with it. Also I have heard lots of complaints about other people having a lot more aphid problems than normal. I work in a nursery in town, and it's always a challenge keeping things healthy and bug free, but this year it was impossible. This is why I thought maybe the weather?
The attack was mostly contained to beans, squash, and kale. Everything else stayed aphid free, even the tomato that is invading the bean space strange enough.
Thanks
 
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It might be too late to save your beans this year, but adding some strong smelling herbs to the plantings, or hardy things like sunflowers or nasturtiums (also edible, and the seed buds make good caper substitutes)
I had tansy which worked quite well - at least I got beans, but they were the bush type - it's too windy to grow anything tall. Tansy did start to get a bit invasive . . .
 
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