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Dawn Hoff
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We have new windows in most of our house and they need painting - preferably before the summer destroys them.

We live in Andalucia in Spain - ie dryland, Mediterranean climate.

We had planned on using linseed oil and pine tar for protection - but cannot buy pine tar anywhere close to here.

Now we could ask some family to bring pine tar when they come in a week (from Denmark), but it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.

What would you use instead?
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_tar

Contains creosote.

Well, it's better than some chemicals used in some paints. But, i think i'd avoid the stuff if i could. For insect protection, it's a good idea tho. Why not use something like venice turpentine ( larch resin) Mixed with your linseed oil and some thinner.
 
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Hi Dawn,

I would strongly suggest the Pine Tar products that are made for exactly this. Flax oil (as we have already discussed) can also be used. I think I gave you a bunch of info once before on different natural wood treatments. I think this even included natural oil paints. There is all kinds of additional info on the "net" you can read through as well. Do you have any other specific questions?

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Jay, there's one thing, in europe, if it has creosote in it, it might get complicated to buy nowadays.
 
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Hello Satamax,

That question has been asked several times, yet since Pine Tar Oil is a EU manufactured and distributed products, with several distributors, I can't imagine why it could not be bought online like many other finishing products. The MSDS for "true creosote" (a petroleum by product) is completely different than what some call creosote. Natural pine tar oil does not have any petroleum distillates of any kind in it it, and is a natural byproduct of processing pine trees. I know you can buy in in Germany, Italy, and Switzerland. Is it not sold in France?

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I haven't paid much atention to pine tar i should admit. All i know about organic products for varnishing if from the guitarmaking school i did, and from contacts with the violinmakers in the same school.

If there's any who can find some in France, theses guys are on the top of the list.

https://www.google.fr/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=hedin+marit&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SAVJ_enFR550FR551&q=hedin+marit+bourdier&gs_l=hp..0.0i22i30l2.0.0.3.13763234...........0.C717itPrt7c

In spain, i would ask guitarmaking/violinmaking supliers. They'll know.
 
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Thank you for all your replies (hadn't received a notification for some reason).

My husband found out that pine tar - or tar had been banned in EU for a while, and then taken of the list again, when they discovered that it was harmless. Meanwhile chemical wood protecting has never been taken off the shelves, and now that is what people buy (the shopkeeper even told me that tar was not allowed). Well well, could look like corporate interests or something (you may call me a conspiracy theorist , I won't be offended).

We've bought powdered natural dye for linseed oil in Denmark. Somehow having our family friend travel w. Several liters of liquid tar in his suitcase didn't seem like a good idea...the department of culture has a great website about paints that are used in old buildings, how to make them yourself - but we found a Danish shop called 1-2-3linolie (linseed oil) - and they had all thing natural, including dye.
 
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I wonder how bone tar or bone salve would work? Has anyone heard of this being used as an antimicrobial?
 
It's in the permaculture playing cards. Here's the link: http://richsoil.com/cards
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