I really want to learn how to build a quail tractor. do you think you will ever cover that?
Do you currently have working tractors with chickens?
wayne fajkus wrote:I hope you do some honest testing on them. I lost two chickens to raccoons and the coons never got in the coop!
I hadn't thought about that. That could certainly be another angle to approach. I've done a little bit of research on them and had seen a few pictures of people doing it before. I'm curious what the differences really would be, Obviously one thing I'd be concerned about is them slipping out the bottom.
Jay C. White Cloud wrote:
Perhaps, when I was younger, I would have gotten stuck there on that thought...and perhaps...a tad frustrated that you would even attempt such a thing....silly rabbit....your not qualified to do this...
Now...al these years later...and becoming a teacher myself (and exoteric fiddler of all kinds of things...many outside my normal skill sets)...I could not think of a better person than you (I read your profile)...as you have some of the most important elements behind you...A NEED...A FOCUS TO DO IT TODAY AND NOT PROCRASTINATE...GOAL DRIVEN TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND NOT REINVENT WHEELS...and...A DESIRE TO SHARE what you took a risk at trying to do...GOOD for you...
Offline (or on) I would gladly edit and critique your designs before publication for anything I may offer, as I have designed, and built countless animal enclosures of all form and fashion from zoo level vivarium for venomous snakes, amphibians, orchids, birds, and mammals to animal husbandry forms for the esoteric and unusual goals of permaculture.
Again, best of luck, and love your spirit...go DO it!
Mike Cornwell wrote:
It is one thing if you have larger animals that you paid hundreds of dollars a piece for. Its another if its a chicken or two. Money/time spend on security is anti-productive, but definitely a fact of life.
Cj Verde wrote:Your design should be dependent on your location and maybe your chickens. I have yet to find a good way to keep my chickens contained. I built 2 tractors, one with wheels, the other on skis. Both are hard to move on my lumpy landscape.
I'm also on quite a bit of ledge and the 4' electronetting isn't working that well. I had to turn off the power because the chickens kept trying to squeeze thru. They also tend to fly over it. A true tractor they are in permanently would be great but too hard to move, I think.
Back to the drawing board.
but making one that quail would be really safe in and not get injured when i would move it
I am definitely not the typical person who would want a chicken tractor.
Mike Cornwell wrote:Emily,
Howdy! Encase you didn't realize (I just have to put this so its obvious) this is the same Mike who you went to Ben's PDC with. =) That's very cool about the chickens. Yeah I definitely don't have either the snow nor the cold problem here, but I certainly am aware that, that is an issue. My first reaction to it, is like you say. Stationary coop/setup, with a mobile one in the spring. Like I said in an earlier post, when you do an element analysis on a chicken coop (as you would with any other permaculture element) you'll certainly see it has needs and limitations, of which you're perfectly describing one. 2 feet of snow cover = not moving. The only thing I could think of would be "put it on skiis or a sled" but, I just don't see that ending well. Cull down the numbers that you have, make space for your breeding / excellent egg layers, over winter, come out strong in the spring. Even here I think overwintering too many animals, is a bad bad idea. It'll cut down your feed costs, remove the amount of space and amount of care necessary, then when there is the all clear, you build back up your stock.
Free range is one of the most interesting topics ever. My friend free ranges his birds, and they've gotten more and more ballzy as the days go by. They stayed really good before, but just kept getting further out, and more daring. You don't necessarily have to fence in the ENTIRE 2.5 acres. There is always the idea of "large paddocks" especially using something like step in posts, and electric twine. At least with that setup you can take it down any time you want. Granted as I hear the best setup is high tension wire that is electrified. Just keep the weeds off it, and phew, that'll put a hurtin.
Mike Cornwell wrote:Hello everyone.
I looked on Amazon and they have one book on the subject, but it doesn't reaaaaallly spend the time addressing the building of the chicken tractor (in specific details).
Kate Muller wrote:
Glad to see you have been busy since September.
Kate Muller wrote:
It will be my first livestock and I am sure there will be a sharp learning curve...
Tina Paxton wrote:
I assume you are talking about "Chicken Tractor" by Patrician Foreman? I have it and you are right, it spends much of the time talking about "upping" the soil through no-till.
Mike Cornwell wrote:
Fort Knox tractor. Excellent verbage. I'm thinking about building at least one of said tractors, but getting the wheel system right to be able to do it. Or, I have something in a similar spirit. The problem with the Fort Knox tractor is its trying to be both a coop, and a tractor, and the more I go along, I'm not sure that's really the best approach.I do think more and more about having a mobile coop, that you can create an enclosed run for. (Similar to having a mobile coop with putting an electric fence around).
Mike Cornwell wrote:What are you doing for eggs? Do they just continually go in a single location? That's usually the downside to free range. Do they have a single coop that you leave open and at night they go in there and do their business? No issues with chickens acting like a nuisance, or at least sounds like its minimal?