downhill in fact. I relocated and rotated the laser level and tripod many times, started over several times; measured, leveled over and over, always with the same result. So either I'm in a mystical place where the laws of physics are out the window, the laser level is giving me consistently bad data despite my changing it's orientation and location, or it simply looks wrong. Boy, this is harder that it seemed at first blush.
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) over engineer the initial infrastructure at the top of your property. It has to take on a very very heavy pressure load from run off. So really consider your investment of effort and energy so you don't make the same mistakes we have. Start at the top and engineer everything for the maximum amount of rainfall it could be opposed by, because in this country that will happen every summer.
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charlie ryan wrote:I am wondering if anyone knows or has tried to do some keyline plowing by hand or with hand tools?

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Dairy cows, "hair" sheep, Kune Kune pigs, chickens, guineas and turkeys
also - from what i have seen, water doesnt seem to "plume" like is demonstrated in some of the pictures
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John Polk wrote:
also - from what i have seen, water doesnt seem to "plume" like is demonstrated in some of the pictures
Heavy clay could be a factor here, but another thing to consider is your rainfall statistics.
The pluming seems to work well in areas with abundant rainfall.
Here in the arid west many of us have very low rainfall. It would take a long time for the plume to happen.
Also, many of us have an evaporation rate that is higher than our rainfall.
I believe that if our evaporation is greater than our rainfall, deep keylining would be more beneficial than swales.
Brian McCune wrote:
I plan to buy a 3-ton mini-excavator to do all of the Geo-surgery. I figured it will be cheaper than renting, in the long run, since I plan on doing geo-work for others.
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Dairy cows, "hair" sheep, Kune Kune pigs, chickens, guineas and turkeys
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
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Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
My Signature for the last few years was "just spinning wheels," but after our PDC at Pauls Place this summer I feel like we are finally catching traction. Hope to be threading some more. got a roof on our house, swales dug, and finally starting to work on our plan in more details.
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Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
Nancy Hedberg, Westcliffe, Colorado
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