• Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic

Can you plant pasture with a discer?

 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I was hoping to disc, throw out the seed then disc again. Or can I just throw out seed? Thoughts welcome.
 
jimmy gallop
Pie
Posts: 194
Location: east and dfw texas
3
bee chicken forest garden hunting trees woodworking
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
That's the way I do it.
Just throwing out seed most wont sprout they have to be in contact with dirt or covered
I disk then seed by hand then , disk again or drag something to cover seed.
 
Dan Grubbs
Posts: 500
Location: northwest Missouri, USA
22
books chicken dog forest garden goat trees
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Frost heave is also an approach to allow seed to make contact with soil. You can broadcast seed where there is freeze/frost heave that makes the soil available. You might also consider a drag harrow after broadcasting your seed. A delicate balance between getting seed in contact while disturbing the soil as little as possible. Take photos of what you do and document your progress ... I'm sure we'll all want to see how what you do worked for you.
 
R Scott
Posts: 3305
Location: Kansas Zone 6a
32
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
That is how we planted all our oats growing up as a kid, a 100+ acres. Works better for some seeds than others.
 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
So how about a box scraper then. I have a box scraper. I'd either have to buy or rent a discer.
 
R Scott
Posts: 3305
Location: Kansas Zone 6a
32
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
No on the box scraper. If we are talking a lawn size area, you could put the rippers down and scratch the surface, but it would probably take several passes. Hand seed, then drag the seed in with tree branches, scrap iron, old fence panels, etc. But it will be worth renting something to save the time and fuel if we are talking a sizeable area.

If you are going to rent, renting a no till drill will get it done better. But that might be $$$
 
Mark Fox
Posts: 14
Location: Stettler, AB Zone 3
1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Running livestock over an area where you've just broadcast seed can help push the seed into contact with the soil. This can also help reduce shading by the established plants. If rain is likely within a day or two, I'll spread seed over an area, then move my sheep onto the area and let them graze it hard.

This has worked well for me in the past, better than frost seeding, but I can't compare it to discing or harrowing before/after broadcasting seed as I've never tried those approaches.
 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
R Scott wrote:No on the box scraper. If we are talking a lawn size area, you could put the rippers down and scratch the surface, but it would probably take several passes. Hand seed, then drag the seed in with tree branches, scrap iron, old fence panels, etc. But it will be worth renting something to save the time and fuel if we are talking a sizeable area.

If you are going to rent, renting a no till drill will get it done better. But that might be $$$


I just called around to see if anyone had a drill and no one did. So back to the discer I suppose.
 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Mark Fox wrote:Running livestock over an area where you've just broadcast seed can help push the seed into contact with the soil. This can also help reduce shading by the established plants. If rain is likely within a day or two, I'll spread seed over an area, then move my sheep onto the area and let them graze it hard.

This has worked well for me in the past, better than frost seeding, but I can't compare it to discing or harrowing before/after broadcasting seed as I've never tried those approaches.


The livestock thing is hard. I don't have any so I'd have to import some. Plus the whole, having nothing for them to eat, thing.
 
R Scott
Posts: 3305
Location: Kansas Zone 6a
32
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Scan craigslist, I bought a disc for scrap metal value. It was so old it has wooden bearings, but works for as little as I do.
 
Kelly Smith
Posts: 699
Location: In a rain shadow - Fremont County, Southern CO
18
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
you may also call the county extension office.
i know my local office has a no till seeder that can be rented/borrowed

 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Kelly Smith wrote:you may also call the county extension office.
i know my local office has a no till seeder that can be rented/borrowed



I did. And they didn't.
 
Dan Grubbs
Posts: 500
Location: northwest Missouri, USA
22
books chicken dog forest garden goat trees
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
You can find drag harrows around for next to nothing (sometimes for nothing!). Many row crop farmers have them piled up in their scrap metal piles as they have long since abandoned that approach to farming. I'd put out the word in your local network of people that you're looking to take a old drag harrow off someone's hands.
 
elle sagenev
Posts: 1261
Location: Zone 5 Wyoming
16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Dan Grubbs wrote:You can find drag harrows around for next to nothing (sometimes for nothing!). Many row crop farmers have them piled up in their scrap metal piles as they have long since abandoned that approach to farming. I'd put out the word in your local network of people that you're looking to take a old drag harrow off someone's hands.


Ha. I should get 2 of those and have my nieces and nephews practice driving with one behind the truck.
 
  • Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic