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Ross Raven
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Last night someone mentioned a northern variety of Japanese rice being grown by some permacultuallists,... gobbly gook, dohicky, alien mind wipe...That's about all the information I have to work with. Is there a master of permies out there that can point me in the right direction? Cold climate rice. Not particularly, wild rice. This would also be for Atlantic Canada. Not the balmy west coast. Thanks in advance
 
alex Keenan
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They are growing rice in Vermont.
I picked up some rice seed to try in Cincinnati Ohio.

I am trying

Zhe 733 - very early maturing, high yield, excellent disease resistance, short plant height, from China
Hsinchu 54 - early maturing, good yield, moderate disease resistance, medium plant height, from Taiwan
Rondo - late maturing, would not likely produce seed, but produces a lot of leaves if you are looking for feeding dabbling ducks


Also

There are three seed distributors that are selling Duborskian, a variety that has matured at Akaogi Farm in Westminster, VT. You can buy Duborskian seed from Fedco Seeds in Waterville, ME (http://www.fedcoseeds.com/), from Sherck Seeds in Bristol, IN (http://sherckseeds.com/pages/seeds/grains/duborskian-rice/), and through Seed Savers Exchange (https://exchange.seedsavers.org/catalog/results.aspx?type=browse&cat=177).

I was recently informed that M-101 (early maturing, short grain rice variety from California) seed is available for purchase from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange (http://www.southernexposure.com/grains-cover-crops-c-29.html?zenid=l10mg2rpbrai8c868aboq9qii6).

Koshihikari (late maturing, short grain japonica rice variety) may mature in your location and is available from Kitazawa Seed Company (https://www.kitazawaseed.com/seeds_rice.html).
 
Cynthia Quilici
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I just got an announcement for this event:
http://www.visitvt.com/cwt/external/visitvt/vt_events/event_detail.aspx?EventID=4779

"Growing rice in Vermont is possible and you can do it, too. Come hear Sjon Welters, of Rhapsody Natural Foods, speak on how he has grown rice over the past 6 years and find out the details on rice cultivation - from a simple bucket to paddy-style. Sjon Welters started off growing rice with 30 seeds he'd gotten during a rice growing workshop at a NOFA conference 7 years ago. Now his family is eating their own Cabot-grown rice planted in paddies in the back of Rhapsody's tempeh shop. A Transition Town program."

I have not heard of him before, but he might be able to help you out.
 
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Thank you very much. We are jumping on this. There is still 4 ft of snow so perhaps we are not jumping to it. Maybe snowshoeing to it
 
Joe Oblenis
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Ross Raven wrote:Thank you very much. We are jumping on this. There is still 4 ft of snow so perhaps we are not jumping to it. Maybe snowshoeing to it


Yes...snowshoes are your friend. Hmmm... I like rice
 
Cee Ray
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M-104 looks pretty interesting:

http://www.carrb.com/Variety/M-104.htm

I'm going to try Duborskian this year.
 
Jay Muir
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Had you seen this article in the Canadian Organic Grower's magazine of organic rice being grown in Nova Scotia?
It's no longer accessible in the archives - too bad - I didn't make a note of the growers' names. Maybe it will give you a lead to follow anyways.

https://www.facebook.com/eoafn/posts/844665432262180
 
Kate Muller
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Fruition Seeds carries rice seed grown in Maine.
http://www.fruitionseeds.com/product-p/gr1.htm

 
Bertram Finx
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The key limitation to growing rice in northern climates is not heat as much as it is day length. Unlike a lot of modern wheat varieties (such as those introduced all over the world during the "Green Revolution"), as far as I know, most (perhaps all) rice is photoperiod sensitive. That is, growth is affected by how much daylight it gets.

Here's a link to an older IRRI publication that says a lot more than I could here: http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PNAAW647.pdf

I used to live in China, where I learned about rice grown in the country's most northern province called Heilongjiang (黑龙江, or "Black Dragon River, which is a pretty cool name). Rice is being grown on the 45th parallel, which is actually further north than Hokkaido, Japan. In fact, the border of Vermont and Quebec is at the 45th parallel also, so it makes sense that rice can be grown in Vermont (as mentioned in a previous post).

Where I live in Manitoba, Canada, at the 50th parallel, a good friend tried growing upland rice (not wet paddy rice, but a dry field variety). Initially it grew fine, but then over time it became sickly and never reached maturity. Our guess is that it was becoming sick due to an imbalance in light-dark periods (i.e., because of photosensitivity). The funny thing is that, at first blush, one might assume that rice wouldn't grow in Canada because it's too cold, but heat wasn't the problem. It was definitely photosensitivity.

Another big aspect of growing rice in more northern climates (at least in Heilongjiang) is carefully managing the seedlings. It's actually very mechanized (and not very permie).

I'd be interested to try some of the seed used in Vermont. I've often thought it would be fun to acquire a bit of the seed from Heilongjiang and see if it took.

Also, as an aside, this is my first post on this forum, and I couldn't help but chuckle at the way that this region thing is set up. There are a dozen shades of gray for the different regions of the US. Canada is divided into two: Ontario, and then, Canada, Alaska and Greenland. That pretty much sums up most people's perspectives, including people from Ontario.
 
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