Even if people want to do things their way, it doesn't mean they're stupid. If we were truly that stubborn, we wouldn't be participating in this forum. I share my knowledge with people that appreciate it. If I have any tendency to avoid larger social contact when it comes to
permaculture practice, it's because I'm tired of hearing, "that's not the way it's done." As far as combining and becoming a greater force for good, I am skeptical about forming another club, group, etc. (bureaucracy?). What I want are friends, with whom I can share recipes, enjoy dinner, and share knowledge. People are more important than the process at the end of the day, and I want to care about the people with whom I share my work.