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Adam Farley
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I've been watching YouTube videos on building rocket mass heaters and masonry heaters, searching for and reading books ( living with a piece of the sun Ken Matesz) , and reading forums off and on for the last two years. Over the last few months I've been somewhat obsessed with acting on the dream of building a masonry heater. I continually find myself looking at rocket mass heaters mainly due to the lack of info on masonry heaters. I've been experimenting with building Different stoves by drystacking stone and brick I have. My yard has never been so free of sticks! I would love to put a RMH in my living room. No matter how warm, practical, efficient, or artistically beautiful they may be I will never be able to convince the war department to approve of putting one in our living room. I feel like the masonry heater is the perfect balance of looks, practicality, and efficiency. I'm having trouble finding useful info on masonry heaters. Most talk ends in sentences like........$15-30,000. Or is not a do it yourself project. Or can only be undertaken with the help of a professional mason. Takes proper foundation. The list of reasons not to try a masonry heater goes on but you get the point.
I have ten years of experience as a bricklayer. Sadly I've never even seen a masonry heater let alone built one. I'm confident that I have the trade skills needed to build one. I have a large traditional fireplace and mantle in the center of my house. It's foot print is more then adequate to be replaced with a heater. My goal is to replace my current fireplace with a masonry heater and document the process, and share the knowledge and experience. There is an incredible RMH community on this site. I respect and commend the work you are all doing. I would like to see and be a part of the same type of community for masonry heaters. If that already exists please point me in the right direction.
All that said here is the help I'm looking for. Detailed plans. Doesn't have to be free but if I'm buying them I'd like an endorsement on what and where to buy. Tips someone had to learn the hard way that I should avoid. Photos of the build process. Useful videos. I'm sure there is plenty of useful information and experience on masonry heaters that others have found during their RMH journey that I would find useful and appreciate. I look forward to your response. Thanks. Adam.
 
Byron Campbell
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Have you looked at the plans for the MISSOURI DESIGNED MASONRY STOVE? It pretty much covers everything you need for a DIY build:

http://dnr.mo.gov/pubs/pub781.pdf

Check out this Russian Stove build article:

http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/building-a-russian-woodstove-from-bricks-zmaz97onzgoe.aspx

Then have the "war dept." check out the various aesthetically pleasing facings as shown in the completed masonry stove examples on this page:

http://www.inspirationgreen.com/masonry-heaters.html

And there's lots of step-by-step brick course photos of masonry stove builds on the MHA site in their annual spring Wild Acres retreat photo reports, one example here:

http://mha-net.org/docs/v8n2/wildac15f.htm
 
Mike Cantrell
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Hi Adam, welcome to Permies!

We had good talk about the overlap between masonry heaters and Rocket Mass Heaters here:

http://permies.com/t/43809/wood-burning-stoves/Masonry-stove-diy-build-feasible

I even made some high-quality MSPaint art.

In one of my replies there, I linked to this set of pages, with a boatload of different brick-by-brick diagrams:
http://www.stove.ru/index.php?lng=1&rs=201
 
Adam Farley
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Thank you for the links. Exactly what I was looking for.
 
David Livingston
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here in france you can buy a kit bit like lego for less than 5000€
 
Glenn Herbert
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As you may have read in some threads here, a rocket mass heater is essentially a subtype of masonry heater. The barrel and cob bench typical of a common RMH are not essential features as such; they are the standard ways of creating those features. Mike Cantrell's posts in this thread explain this very clearly:
http://permies.com/t/43809/wood-burning-stoves/Masonry-stove-diy-build-feasible

In short, you can have a RMH that looks like the visually acceptable masonry heater and does not require the specialized layout and construction skills of a common masonry heater (though it sounds like you have the technical skills to build one of those from good plans).
 
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