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Tree Lucerne Tagasaste/Cytisus proliferus Seeds & Seedlings

 
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I was just reading the most recent ACRES USA mag and there was an article about Tagasaste (tree lucerne) for a forage/fodder crop. The article mentioned Permies which I thought was cool. Anyhow these seeds can be nearly impossible to find in the US due to importing restrictions it seems. I have been experimenting/growing them for the last year. They are hard to Germinate but I do have a few that I'm over wintering for planting next spring.

We have some friends in New Zealand who was working with a local University Extension Program and had stayed with us for a few days. I had mentioned something about permaculture to him and he then told me all about Tagasaste and left some seeds with me to see what I could do with them. I was planning on selling the seedlings next spring but may offer some seeds depending on my stock, I need to count what I have left.

If interested just let me know,

Cheers!
 
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Very nice I'd like to try growing that sometime, I used to try new crops alot but have been concentrating on what I've prooven to be successful recently.
 
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Hi Rick,
I would definitely like to buy some seeds from you if you have extras. I'm really interested in trying to grow tagasaste on my florida homestead for fodder.
Thanks,
Chris
 
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What does it take to overwinter these in our climate? I'd love to get a bunch of these established on my homestead [and a ton more on the farm I'm looking to establish.]
 
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I have a couple of these too, from seed bought years ago from Hudson's. Freezes into the teens will kill it back...at least the strain that I have.
 
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People in NZ mention using them for cover for frost sensitive plants, for instance, growing tamarillo underneath. Or citrus. I've not heard any reports of longer term feedback, beyond initial plans.

Note that twice I've bought the seeds in New Zealand, and when I went to germinate them, found them to be infested with spider embryos. Opening the seed casing would show a baby spider inside, in place of the seed. And this was the case for most of the seeds. In the end, I bought in seedlings, and have them out in the yard. They've grown rather well, except for the two, which got scythed accidentally. I also loosely plan to plant frost sensitive things under them.

What a wonderful coincidence Rick that you just happened to mention to this New Zealander that was visiting, and he happened to be carrying the seed. New Zealand has very strict importation rules, and I'm very surprised that someone carried seeds into the states or wherever, and just happened to be carrying the one you mentioned I'd be very cautious if I were you.
 
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Hi, Yes, I'd like to chat with anybody with experience or an interest in Tagasaste here in the USA.
Hard to find out very much about it with little or no exposure here.
 
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Right now I only have one bush left.  The other one suddenly died last fall....waiting to see if it grows back from the base.  They do bloom and set seeds, though I haven't yet tried to propagate any from my own seed.  It certainly does not seem to be the vigorous plant here that the permaculture literature goes on about in places like AU.  I wonder if perhaps it depends upon being regularly coppiced or browsed to be vigorous?  It's too bad I only have one left or I would cut it back good to see what might happen, but as it is I'll hope for seed and plant some if I think of it.  For forage and coppice I have quite a few other more promising species at the moment.....
 
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First shipment of seed has arrived. Fully Permitted & Certified, after a lot of work to get to that stage. I have both the Standard Tree & Weeping variety seed available for sale. I'm working with several Goat Breeders across Texas to evaluate the potential for the Tagasaste to supplement the Forage food source. I'm also working with the A&M Prairie View, Tx Farm that has several hundred goats for both milk & meat breeds.
 
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I know that this is an old thread. But I'd really like to try some seeds. Anyone have seeds or plants available or know where to get them? Thanks...
 
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marcus thompson wrote:I know that this is an old thread. But I'd really like to try some seeds. Anyone have seeds or plants available or know where to get them? Thanks...



Yes. I still have seed available
Mob 270 484 6585
Kym@orrocktrading.com
 
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I would love to buy some live plants. I need Cytisus proliferus!
 
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Hello, just wondering if you may still have seeds or seedlings of Tagasaste available or do you know where they can be purchased?  Thank you so much for any info you can provide.
 
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HI There,
I am out of Tagasaste Tree seed stock just now, but hoping for new shipment soon.
Kym Orrock - www.Orrocktrading.com
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Mob # 270 4846585
 
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Hi There, I was checking in to see if you had an update on your project with growing the Tagasaste ?
I have a USDA permit to import the seed & have brought in several Kgs, but am out of stock just now.
I'm here in NW Houston, Tx
 
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TAGASASTE SEED - New Stock has just arrived & will be distributed to those that have been waiting -
 
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Kym Orrock wrote:

marcus thompson wrote:I know that this is an old thread. But I'd really like to try some seeds. Anyone have seeds or plants available or know where to get them? Thanks...



Yes. I still have seed available
Mob 270 484 6585
Kym@orrocktrading.com



August 2022 - New Seed is available now, 1oz packets - bulk volume available
Regards & Happy Growing to everyone
 
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TAGASASTE TREE SEEDS - Available Now - Kym Orrock - Orrock Trading LLC - Spring, Tx 77379 - www.orrocktrading.com  mob# 270 484 6585
 
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Hi, I am from New Zealand and have Tagasaste growing in my garden. I have been germinating seeds for a number of years. It is indeed tempermental to germinate but I have worked out the best way is to soak in hot water for as long as it takes. The black seeds will swell up and turn green when they are ready to plant. I leave the seeds in the water, and replace the water every day with new hot water. I do not scar them just soak, and remove them as they plump up.
 Without doing this, they can still germinate but the seed shell will be to rigid to let the sprout out and can choke the head of it. This seems to mainly only be the case for old seed, if you sow fresh seed from the plant it can just be planted directly into soil.
Hope this helps.

I have mentioned this plant to a few people in the USA and in Canada, hopefully they can find seed. I may give them the contacts on this site.
Thanks.
 
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