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Anyone interested in swapping some apple , pear plum scion wood . Due to regulations europe only I am afraid .
I am looking for Bramley and Egromont russet apple , yellow cherry, victoria plum , oullins golden gage in particular but interested in other old types too
What have I got in exchange ? Well
Medlar , Cour du Pigion cherry , Pate a loup , Cox , Elstar, Belchard and some apples very old french dont know the name , Rein claud and quesh, Mirrabelle ( yellow and red) Cherry plums .

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Rus Williams

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Hi David.
We have a plum tree that I think is Oullins Golden Gage. The tree was in a pretty bad state when we bought the property and the emergency pruning done by a family member doesn't seem to have helped all that much after the first year when we got bucketfulls, but if I can get a just handful of these wonderful fruits every year I'm super happy.

So it's a bit fungusy in parts, and I'm not enough of a gardener to tell whether that will spread from a cutting. So let me know if you want cuttings or if you'd rather not take the chance. At this point there isn't anything I want in return.

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Thanks for the response . How big are these plums as I have come across folks who get confused with yellow mirabelle Incidently mirrabelle fruit is banned in the states

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/foods-illegal-in-the-united-states-of-america-thrillist-nation
Mirabelle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabelle_plum
Oullian golden gage http://www.yougarden.com/item-p-300048/plum-oullins-golden-gage-tree

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Hi David

I have Bramley, Orleans Reinette and Worcester Pearmain apples, plus a russet that might be Egremont russet....I'll check.

I also have Victoria plum, but this is probably pretty diseased.... I have Reine Claude de Bavais plum (greengage) but this is DEFINITELY diseased.

I will be at my mum's in Herefordshire this week and she has Coe's Golden Drop plum, plus a selection of old fashioned but un-named Herefordshire apples.

If any of these are of any use to you let me know!

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ooooo I would definitely like some coes golden drop ( looks very nice here https://www.orangepippin.com/gages/coes-golden-drop )
We already have some Reine Claude as they are known here Some Bramley Russet Permain would be wonderful . ( I love all these old names)
What would you like in return?

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Sorry for not being clear David. The plums are definitely not Mirabelle, but apparently the resident plant geek has already identified them as Reine Claude, so not what you want.
Happy hunting!

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No problem thanks for looking ,Russ

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Hi David

Sorry for such a late reply!! I went to my mum's before I saw your message so I didn't take any cuttings of her CGD. Will be going again in 2 weeks.

Leaves falling here now, so I can take apple cuttings as soon as you would like and post them to you if you message me your address. Are you going to graft with sticks or buds? If sticks, how long do you want? (I may have to just find clean stuff of whatever size though.....)

I'm not sure what to do about the plums.... won't they get diseased if I cut them at this time of year??

In terms of what I'd like in exchange - completely unrelated, but have you got any perennial bunching onions? They are like spring onions but grow by division into a clump. I used to have these but lost them all to downy mildew one year

Also, if you have any Gages, I will try grafting onto my Victoria

L

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Hi Linda
It looks like I will be visiting the UK end Nov - crew and Hartlepool maybe it best to post stuff then plus i will see about the onions I am not sure how they will cope in the post

As for the trees I find rind grafting works best with the plums and whip and tougne the apples - so end branches the size of a pencil would be fine .
I could send you a mixed bunch of French apples too if you want then you can have a surprise

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I have Cambridge Greengate and Marjorie's Seedling Plum, or apples Coxs Orange Pippen and Discovery. Also Peach 'Bonanza', Nectarine 'Fantasia', or a dwarf apricot (Prunus Armeniaca). Could also send currants, I have Wellington XXX (black fruit), Red Lake (red fruit) and Versailles (white fruit).

Anyone have any of the following apple scions?
- Howgate Wonder
- Kingston Black
- Tom Putt

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I guess Anjou is slighly out of the French cider making region but can you some French perry pears or cider apples?-Even just knowing the name of some french perry pear names would be good.

To anyone interested: I have access to alot of perry pear varieties e.g moorcroft, blakeney red, coppy, butt, potato pear and lots of others I am not 100% sure I have identified correctly yet e.g barnet, pint, hellens early, yellow huffcap etc. Some cooking pears too. Also quite a few different apples (mainly eating) katy, cox, blenheim orange, golden noble (cooker) , egremont russet, worcesters and lots I have not indentified yet.

Some gages, cider apples etc would be good for me or even some pear or apple rootstocks if you have them.

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I have lots of different pears probably ten types unfortunetly I also have every known disease of pears plus some yet undiscovered( silver leaf bitter pit stoney pit rusts and incsects by the tonne) ; Some of the Pears are cookers some I think perry pears . As soon as I have ramped up production of apples they are for the fire

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Linda Secker

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Hi David

I've cut you scions of the Coe's Golden Drop from my mum's. Will cut Bramley, Worcester and Russet apples nearer the time. The plum scions are standing in water outside but I might put them in the fridge (

) Please let me know your UK address(es) and dates so I can send these at the right time

I don't understand the grafting of plums.... won't they just succumb to silver leaf if you do them over winter? I'd love to graft some more interesting scions onto my Victoria!!

I'm going to use scions from my mum's unknown Hereford apples to graft onto mine, so kind as your offer of French ones is, I'll decline

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I rind graft the plums as I find trying to whip graft does not work as the bark pulls away from the cut too much
I will send you a pm next week

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wrapped up and ready for the post office tomorrow David

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Big hugs and love I have them already 😊😊😊😊😊will post yours in ten days

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Hi Linda have sent you a PM

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Hello!

Does somebody know where to buy cider apple scion wood in Europe with zp-b2 EU plant passport?

Thank you!

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