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Michelle Bickford
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Hello,
I am a total novice as far as homesteading and permaculture goes.  But I hope that, I offset my lack of knowledge, with a greater than average work ethic, a great deal of enthusiasm, a desire to learn as much as I can, and a genuine love of nature and all its beauty.  I loved permaculture, before I knew there was a word for it, or people that have been living this way forever. Or rather, never really stopped.    For as long as I remember I have yearned to live a simpler, more organic way of life.  I wanted to be closer to nature, and all that entails. I am sure that I don’t have to tell anyone one here what that means. I just needed something that didn't leave me feeling empty at the end of the day, while surrounded by a bunch of stuff I didn’t need.  But thought I wanted at the time because it would fill that big empty hole.  That hole contains my yearning for something more, and my dissatisfaction with the material, currency based lifestyle that I lead. Not because it’s the way that I want to live, but because it is the way of the world.  Honestly, the reason I have any use for money, is because everyone always seems to want it from me. Nothing in America is free people.  OK. That was a rant. I can’t quite put it into words.  It is easiest to say that, I have always felt out of time. As is I should have been born in simpler era.
I grew up a military brat, and then married a military man, so I have never had an opportunity to put down roots and build a place of my own. Or to live the kind of life I wanted for that matter. I spent a lot of years sacrificing my dreams to allow other people to follow theirs. I now find myself finally free, in my forties, and clueless about where to start.
I also have to admit that, I thought by this point in my life, I would have my own small, self-sustaining farm. Didn't Allen Saunders say that, " Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". I can relate.
I am here just looking for friends. It would be great if I found my soul mate, but I am beginning to think that he isn’t out there.  I have also come to realize that long lasting, enduring friendships are more important to me than romance, or electric chemistry.  But, wouldn’t it be great to find all that in one person. 
One of my main issues is that I can’t find anyone interested in the kinds of things I am. I have always been the “weird” one.  No one that I know has any interest in gardening, sustainability, or living of the land.  And the only chickens they want to deal with are golden brown, crispy, and on a plate. Wow, that sounds good. But, you know what I am getting at.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I know from experience that it leaves me wanting.  Heck, you have read this far into my post, maybe I am weird.  And who gets to decide that anyway?
So I have been lurking around this wonderful site for a couple of years, learning as much as I can.  I have been sort of living vicariously through everyone here. I have never really had the nerve to post.  I am somewhat of an introvert (work in IT lol).  I do have social skills, thank you very much. I can carry on a conversation,  I just never have the nerve to start the conversation. Or walk up to a group of strangers and say hello.  That is what this feels like to me.
Please forgive me babbling, I talk and type the same way. I am in a rush to get it all out before my busy mind goes off on some tangent. I am the queen of the run-on sentence. But, hey this is me…like it, love it, or leave it.
It is nice to meet you all,
Michelle
P.S.
Can someone tell me how to delete a post? I want to be prepared!
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David Livingston
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Welcome to Permies
I am sure you could fit in fine here .
So have you are garden ? or plan to get some land ?

David
 
Michelle Bickford
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Hi David,

Yes, i do have a garden.  I spend most of my time trying to find natural ways to keeps the pests from destroying my plants.  I would like to buy land, I am trying to decide where.  I recently moved from Florida to Southern Cali, and it's more of a bigger change than I anticipated. There are some varieties  of fruits and vegetables that I got used to growing there, that aren't allowed here. At any rate, I don't think I will end buying land here.  Not only is it cost prohibitive, but I really would like to get back to someplace with snow.  My son is heading off to college next year, and I keep threatening to give away everything and move to Alaska.  It's always one extreme or the other with me it seems
 
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sorry I'm a bit confused , so plants you can grow in Florida you cannot grow in California ?
err I was led to believe you guys are in the same country ?
Its like saying apples from the uk cannot be grown in France

David
 
Merry Bolling
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Hi, Michelle! Best of luck in finding some land and living off it! Your enthusiasm and work ethic sound like they'll give you a leg up for accomplishing your sustainable dream. Hang in there!

I'm a "tree hugging" introvert and, like you, love learning at this website (while rarely posting). My husband & I retired and now live on a so-called hobby farm (small acreage) in the mountains of Arkansas...so read that as we dig out lots of rocks in our soil and don't make money from our produce because being surrounded by a forest of squirrels & deer means they beat us to a good deal of it.

Our experience has been that we could have made a food forest on a much smaller scale to produce a good bit of food for just the two of us, so you don't necessarily need to move way out in the sticks (there might be less critter competition closer in plus less mileage/expense to access farmers markets/businesses to sell your produce to). Pick your lands location very carefully if you need to be economically sustainable. You might try "The Market Gardener", Jean-Martin-Fortier. Caveat: he sounds sensible in the articles, but I haven't read his book).
http://civileats.com/2015/04/21/earn-a-good-living-without-a-tractor-a-market-gardener-tells-you-how/
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/six-figure-farming-with-jean-martin-fortier-zbcz1501       ;

Don't you think it's wonderful at permies.com to find other like-minded people? Good to meet you!     
 
Michelle Bickford
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David,

No, maybe I wasn't clear. I am sure they will grow but there are a lot of restrictions about produce and plants that come into  the state.  I don't know it's it's because of insects and pests that might be on the plants, or something else. Whenever I come back from Mexico, that is always one of the things they check for at the border.  They want to know if I am bringing back in plants or produce. I never looked that deeply into simply because I knew I was not going to stay here.
 
Michelle Bickford
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Merry,
Thank you for the information and the welcome.  Thant is one of the things that makes this site so great. Everyone is willing to share their knowledge and experience. It will probably keep me from making more mistakes than I normally would have. I will take a look at that book. Thanks again
 
Karen Donnachaidh
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Friendship, knowledge and like minds can all be found here and you are going to fit in just fine. Welcome!
If you've been reading the massive amounts of useful information on this site for awhile, you are already more knowledgeable than most who are just starting to find a place to take root. (Yes. That was one sentence. Whew!)
I, too, am considered the "weird" one. My siblings ask, "Where did you come from? You're like a witch, with all those bundles of herbs hanging from the ceiling." And also, "Why don't you just buy food from the store like normal people?" I don't care. I'm just me. And here, I've been lucky to find those like-minded people.
My garden and fields are my "church", where I feel reverent peace. They are a far stretch from being perfect, but so am I.
I hope you will stay with us on your journey and post often as you progress. Best of luck!
 
John Weiland
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@Michelle B. "...there are a lot of restrictions about produce and plants that come into  the state.  I don't know it's it's because of insects and pests that might be on the plants, or something else. Whenever I come back from Mexico, that is always one of the things they check for at the border. "

LOL!....Yeah, if "E.T." were to drop out of the sky tomorrow in his little UFO the first thing Cal authorities would do is check the ship for produce or unprocessed meat.....      To be fair, that state has a pretty large contribution to the national agricultural output and they are doing what they can to try to protect that.  But that being said, if there are things you enjoyed growing or eating in Florida that may grow in your region of California...-and-..for which there is no local or state ordinance against growing, then you may well be able to find someone already within the state from whom you can get seeds or nursery stock.  Even if it's just for a short time before possibly moving to a new location, with much of California's extended growing season, you may be able to do some container growing or small garden growing in the interim.  Good Luck!.....a treasure trove of information here among the diverse members, so don't hesitate to ask questions.
 
Michelle Bickford
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LOL John, I totally get that.  The first time I got stopped at the border, I was sure that they were checking for drugs or maybe they thought I was smuggling people across the border.  When the officer told me they were searching for produce, I was like Really... It was strangely anticlimactic.
Thanks for the ideas. I think I might go that route as well. I was putting it off because I really get too attached to my plants. It's silly, but after nurturing them from seeds, they always feel like my babies. So i didn't want to grow too much and then have to get rid of it all. Anyway, I will figure it all out eventually.
 
Michelle Bickford
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Karen,

Thank you again for the warm welcome. And "cheers" to being weird!
 
John Weiland
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@Michelle B: " It's silly, but after nurturing them from seeds, they always feel like my babies. So i didn't want to grow too much and then have to get rid of it all. "

Absolutely not silly at all!....many here would feel the same way.  In the end, we've gifted many house and garden plants and produce to like-minded individuals rather than see those plants destroyed or dumped.  You do what you can and spread the sentiment of caring to others when and where you can.
 
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