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if lots of people become farmers will there still be high paying jobs?

 
Wesley johnsen
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i noticed that lots of people are becoming farmers but will this mean the market will become over saturated with food that people can not make enough money to get by? also they have small scale farms like growing power that yield huge amounts of food from a few acres and they also use aquaponics. should the land each farmer gets be be small to where its just a self employment option and not 100 acres where farm crews are hired and getting paid minimum wage that could run there own farm and make 60k? i think 40 acres is enough and due to this small amount many can be farmers.
 
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Have you seen paul's story about Gert? https://permies.com/t/55918/millions-permaculture-millionaires-story-Gert ; I think there will be a combination of factors that come into play if more people were farming. I can think of a lot scenarios where more farmers would lead to more community cooperation in ways that would make larger household incomes less relevant. Cooperatives to share large scale processing or harvesting equipment, labor exchanges, bartering goods and services, are all some of the ways that people could enjoy all the prosperity of a larger income without chasing the actual cash.
 
Gilbert Fritz
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More importantly, we could turn the question around. If there are no more high paying jobs, will we all have to be farmers? Probably yes.

Also, it is hard to make money at farming right now due to our subsidized food system.
 
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In my community, most of the village is required by religious edict to grow gardens. They are pretty good about complying. When I calculate the size of all those tiny gardens to the size of the large fields of those that try to make a living growing vegetables, the small gardens add up to about 8X more land area. The fruits and vegetables grown in all those small gardens typically end up in the gifting economy. I don't know how a businessman would earn a living in that sort of situation. I suppose by selling to outsiders and other people that are disconnected from the gifting economy.

I donate about half of what I grow into the gifting economy. I'm currently supporting 4 food pantries. Last time I calculated an hourly rate for my farming efforts, it worked out to less than $2 per hour. But, I'm not trying to make a living at farming, I'm trying to nurture and heal my community by providing them with safe and wholesome foods.

I don't raise animals, but I eat plenty of eggs, lamb, chicken, deer, and fish that I don't pay for.  The gifting economy is alive and well in my village.

 
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