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Runoff, springs, collection. Newbie here please help.  RSS feed

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Good morning, I need advice and know many people on here can offer their ideas.  I can't believe I have too much water.  I am in Toronto, Ohio 43964 google map here for an aerial you can see the top of my driveway by the "246". (

Basically the problem is how to manage the water that comes off my drive way and collect from a spring.  Look at the pics and you will see that the driveway is a hill and when it rains we get a lot water running down, eventually it ends up in our basement.  Add to that the fact that there are three springs that we want to harvest and I am lost.

Look at the pic labeled "ALL" and you get a good overview, those 2 pink arrows are very shallow trenches meant to carry water to the left, as we see the photo,  but they wash away rather quickly as the driveway is gravel.  I have to go out every time we get significant rain fall to direct the water.  The reason I do that is so the water does not continue down the slope and into my front yard and then basement.

I have those 2 "ponds" or if you prefer "damns" that hold some water, they are shallow, only about an average of 12" and feed into each other and then down the 4" pipe at the bottom labeled drain.  That drain pipe goes under the driveway and empties to the bottom of the farm, see the pic labeled yard to get an idea of the drain location.  When we get a lot of rain the drain cannot keep up and the second pond overflows.

See the photo labeled "gully" that circled pipe just helps divert the water that flows down that natural gully, lots of water there too.  All the water from the driveway and gully empty into my 2 "ponds". What do I do with all that runoff and surface water?  Divert, collect something else?  If I just let it go then my basement floods, plus that is a lot water and I hate to waste it.

To add to this water issue see the photo labeled "springs" those 3 springs run all the time, I do not know the rate for sure but all three together when at the slowest might be 1GPM?  We want to use those springs for drinking water, but as you can see they mix with the runoff driveway gully water; is that a problem?  I would really like to harvest and collect the spring water for drinking and the rest of the water for irrigation or a pond down the property, or for toilets...ideas?

Maybe we don't try to collect the driveway water at all?  We have 4 structures with a total of about 10,000 square feet of roof area we can collect rain from, does that change anything?

Anyway, I need help, ideas and advice. I know someone out there in permie-land has a solution, I do not.  I simply do not have the knowledge or experience to do this, so I am relying of you all.

Thanks for the help!


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I wonder if a 12" culvert installed under the driveway downstream from your 4" pipe drain would direct the excess runoff away from your front yard and towards the kidney shaped hay field.
With some backhoe work you could probably dig out the springs enough to put in a covered collection box with a pipe to take the spring water down hill wherever you wanted.
A civil engineer might be willing come to your place and do a walk around and provide you with some solutions for a fee.
One thing I do know for sure is that wet basements are awful.
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Dig a nice pond,plant something!
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did you get a solution please?
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my go to is the rock creek solution to these types of problems
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Rock creeks make lovely landscape features, but I don't like the above example showing the water being run off the property into the street.  It would be better if it would run to a depressed area within the yard, a "rain garden" so more of it could soak in.  This helps recharge groundwater and mitigate area flooding.
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Ditto with raingarden and also ditto to the pond. A real pond, not the shallow water collection area you have. Along with the idea of rain gardens, tall grasses, shrubs and ground cover can help absorb water, slow down or stop runoff. If you can get your driveway sloped to one side, directing water to the ditch of preference. Of course whether you want to store rainwater from roofs depends on if you may need that water later,,,
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