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“Use plain, simple language, short words and brief sentences. That is the way to write English–it is the modern way and the best way. Stick to it; don’t let fluff and flowers and verbosity creep in.” …Mark Twain

I really need to heed that advice.

 
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" I prefer to distinguish ADD as Attention Abundance Disorder . Everything is just so interesting .... remarkably at the same time . " - Frank Coppola

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Step back and take a look at what these forums offer. It's a chance to change to world for the better.

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" What should young people do with their lives today ? Many things , obviously . But the most daring thing is to create stable communities in which the terrible disease of loneliness can be cured . " - Kurt Vonnegut

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"Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools and the beacons of wise men"

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The day gone swiftly
For a youth the work days prize
Aged , the Northern slope

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"Until you change the way money works, you change nothing."
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All creatures, the low and the high, are one with nature. If we have the wisdom to learn, all may teach us their virtues. Between the fragile beauty of the praying mantis and the fire and passion of the winged dragon, there is no discord. Between the supple silence of the snake and the eagle's claws, there is only harmony. As no two elements of nature are in conflict so when we perceive the ways of nature, we remove conflict within ourselves and discover a harmony of body and mind in accord with the flow of the universe. - Master Kan, Kung Fu TV Series
 
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"The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others."
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I wonder what it'll be like walking to the pooper on Pauls farm in a few years...
 
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None of us can do everything, but all of us can do something.

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" I believe that national sovereignties will shrink in the face of universal interdependence . " - Jacques Cousteau

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Organic gardening is a stepping stone to permaculture.
Or a warning sign!

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" The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a comfortable living from a small piece of land . " - Abraham Lincoln

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"War is not healthy for children and other living things "
"Visualize World Peace"
"Make Love not War"
Just because old bumper stickers went out of fashion with VW Bugs and Bellbottom jeans does not make peace a passing fad . Down with fashion!Peace . It's the real thing!
World Peace Day 09-21-13

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" A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way . " - Mark Twain

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A bit OT: that last Twain quote reminds me of the Southern saying, 'nervous as a long-tailed cat on a porch full of rockers.' For some reason, maybe because I grew up in an area without porches full of rockers, that saying tickles me.

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" Argumentation cannot suffice for the discovery of a new work , since the subtlety of nature is greater many times than the subtlety of argument ." - Francis Bacon

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Permaculture Design for the Small Planet . A quarter acre is the new farm . Twenty acres is the new ranch.

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"Learn to do common things uncommonly well ; we must always keep in mind that anything that helps full the dinner pail is valuable . " - George Washington Carver

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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."

(Mark Twain, 1835 – 1910)

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"Address all complaints to the Monsanto corporation"

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Futurama Season 1 episode 2

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My answering machine used to say "The complaints department is open every February 29th between 3 and 4 am." I was quite proud of my creation, but was convinced by concerned family members that it might hurt business.
 
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If this were a Golden Age there would be people complaining that everything looks too yellow .

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Thomas Jefferson in a letter to George Washington - June 28th 1793 :
"Good husbandry with us consists in abandoning Indian corn and tobacco , tending small grain , some red clover following , and endevouring to have , while the lands are at rest , a spontaneous cover of white clover . I do not present this as a culture judicious in itself , but as good in comparison with what most people there pursue . "

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T.J. speaking of resiliency :
" By varying too the articles of culture , we multiply the chances for making something , and disarm the seasons in a proportionable degree of their calamitous. " - Thomas Jefferson in a letter dated July 30th , 1787

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"When somebody is starting down the eco path, many people that are further down the path appear to think that the beginners are fools. And that the people that are further down the path are insane."

I liked this Paul Wheaton quote. Then I got lost in the minutia of gultching and trying to come up with a good definition for it.


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" There are no unsacred places ; there are only sacred places and desecrated places . " - Wendell Berry

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Fiftysix percent of the health care budget pays for lifestyle related diseases . It's not a healthcare crisis . It's a lifestyle crisis.

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" Be careful about reading healthbooks . You may die of a misprint . " - Mark Twain

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In any group endeavour, there are practical and effective, or impractical and ineffective, ways to manage a complex system. Impractical, frustrating, and time-consuming systems are those governed by large boards, assemblies, or groups (seven or more people). These "meetings" have a chairperson, agendas, proposals, votes, or use consensus, and can go on for hours. Consensus, in particular, is an endless and pointless affair, with coercion of the often silent or incoherent abstainer by a vociferous minority. Thus, decisions reached by boards, parliaments, and consensus groups either oppress some individuals (votes) or are vetoed by dissenters. In either case, we have tyranny of a majority or tyranny of a minority, and a great deal of frustration and wasted time. The way to abolish such systems is to have one meeting where the sole agenda is to vote to abolish decision meetings -- this is usually carried unanimously -- and another where a consensus is reached to abolish consensus -- this too shouldn't take long. - Bill Mollison

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What is proposed herein is that we have no right, nor any ethical justification, for clearing land or using wilderness while we tread over lawns, create erosion, and use land inefficiently. Our responsibility is to put our house in order. Should we do so, there will never be any need to destroy wilderness. - Bill Mollison

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Life is also busy transporting and overturning the soils of earth, the stones, and the minerals. The miles-long drifts of sea kelp that float along our coasts may carry hundreds of tons of volcanic boulders held in their roots. I have followed these streams of life over 300 km, and seen them strand on granite beaches, throwing their boulders up on a 9,000 year old pile of basalt, all the hundreds of tons of which were carried there by kelp. - Bill Mollison

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We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.
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People have complained to me that mulching does not kill everything. I just got a letter from someone saying that it won't kill cockleburs, morning glories, Johnson grass, nut grass. She left out witch grass. I know it won't kill that and neither will it pick your peas or plant your seeds. I am just saying (in a friendly, sarcastic way) that just because it does 100 things for you, should it be expected to do 101? - Ruth Stout

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Order is found in things working beneficially together. It is not the forced condition of neatness, tidiness, and straightness all of which are, in design or energy terms, disordered. True order may lie in apparent confusion; it is the acid test of entropic order to test the system for yield. If it consumes energy beyond product, it is in disoder. If it produces energy to or beyond consumption, it is ordered. - Bill Mollison

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The class of citizens who provide at once their own food and their own raiment, may be viewed as the most truly independent and happy.

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“How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your Tee Vee; kill your own beef; build your own cabin and piss off the front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.” - Edward Abbey

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“If America could be, once again, a nation of self-reliant farmers, craftsmen, hunters, ranchers, and artists, then the rich would have little power to dominate others. Neither to serve nor to rule: That was the American dream.” - Edward Abbey

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