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Hello,

I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I was wondering if this plan sounds viable. I would become an intern for wwoof as soon as I get out of high school. I would after that go to college and/or get a job on the physical workforce. Then, I would build my own tipi and make it my permanent dwelling (looking at about 700). I then could buy a piece of land and get my tipi set up, and make a decent sized barn/shed which would have a pantry inside and a composting toilet. I could then start building up a homestead by raising cattle, chicken, and planting a large garden. My shed would also collect rainwater and I would attach a solar water heater for it and have it attached to it along with some solar panels with the batteries underneath the floor in a water proof box. I would one day like to go completely off the grid minus loosing the internet it is to valuable to give up. Does this sound plausible at all?

On another note is this a viable solution to avoid tilling due to its distractive nature. Could I use a pick axe to dig up small rows of soil? I think it would be less destructive because it isn't destroying as much landscape. I could raise plants from seedling and get a decent size plant and then plant it.

What is your thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Joe
 
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Joe I guess if a tee pee living is legal in your state and there isn't a cold winter it surely could work, as many people have lived in tents year around and done well. I don't know much about the first part of your plan, but the last part does sound doable.

as for the no till, you can build up your soil with mulches and you won't have to till, just spread the mulch apart for your seeds and when they are up and growing bring it back near

I think if you are not planning on college you might try for a job in an area where you are interested in living when you get out of high school, so that you'll be near the area where you want to buy land and build..and save as much money toward buying the land as soon as possible.

some good quality tents are available and camping equipment that can be temp set up on land, but make sure you check with the restrictions in the area you want to live, maybe find through a search a friendly to year around camping area first before picking out the area you plan to work in
 
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Thanks for the suggestions.

I have looked into the tipi building and think it is plausible I was hoping that someone on this forum has tried it and then they could tell me how successful they were with it.

I figured out how to do no till soil in the time between my post and now using Fukuoka's methods.

If I don't claim to using the tipi as a permanent shelter they can't throw zoning laws at me correct?
 
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Well, um, er, yes/no, depending on where you are.  If you are in city limits, they probably can say something about a teepee.  In the country, beyond city limits, it would depend upon the county.  Some counties are quite lax, and others are worse than many cities.  There may be septic/sewage issues that must be complied with regardless on where you site yourself.  Without knowing where you plan to do this, none of us here can give you  clear cut answers.  You will need to check out local ordinances. It can often be done online...feel lucky if it can NOT be done online, as that might be a signal that your county is not one of the militant, in-your-face-with-regulations counties.  This information needs to be addressed before you lay out your hard earned cash to buy a property.  Please, do bear in mind that even if you find a county that will allow this now, it may be a different situation several years down the line, and you may, or may not be able to get "grandfathered in", depending on how long you have done it, or owned the land.
Good luck in your search.
 
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the gubberment..it can do basically what it wants..just saw on t v this morning some guy was ticketed for parking his PICK UP in his DRIVEWAY...so don't trust your gut..find out
 
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The only ticket I ever got was for parking in the driveway (car was overlapping the sidewalk a teeny bit). 
 
                                          
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Have you thought about I.C. living they are usually in areas that allow you to do all of the things you are looking to do and it would then put you in a small community that is living a  very similair lifestyle as you with a minimal output of cash
 
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happyearthhomes wrote:
Have you thought about I.C. living they are usually in areas that allow you to do all of the things you are looking to do and it would then put you in a small community that is living a  very similair lifestyle as you with a minimal output of cash



I'm not familiar with the abbreviation of I.C. could you fill me in please.
 
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my opinion....skip college and concentrate on learning a real trade.  join the work force.  get a decent job, quick fast and in  hurry.
 
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Once again, Mr. Pierce has hit the nail on the head. College has become something that is just kind of expected these days. If you are looking for a career that requires college, that's one thing, but why would you go if you plan to live the way you are planning?

I say get out there as soon as you can, get working, and raise that money. Then you will be able to follow your dream sooner, and enjoy it longer! The sooner you start working, the sooner you'll be able to stop. Good luck to you!!
 
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The reason why I would want to go to college is to try to get stuff sorted out and then get a job that pays about 45k-60k a year then save up and move out and have a nice amount of money so I can get started well.
 
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If you get on a road crew, work your butt off, and take every chance you can to learn, you'll be operating a front end loader in a year or two. If you take all the hours, you'll be making 45K in a few years. Otherwise you'd still be in college incurring debt instead of making money.
If you don't plan to use you're college education after you've saved enough to buy your land etc, then it will just slow the process. I'm not saying college is bad in all cases, but just that you should seriously consider your options. "getting your stuff sorted out" at college is a very expensive way to do things.
 
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dead on mr stark.  the percentage of colllage students that get a job or career that is what the went to college to actually learn, is about 40%.....and from my experience with ones ive personnally known that went to school  that figure is way high.

$45-$60 grand is nothing to make,........IF YOU HAVE A TRADE.  learn a trade,  become self employed and you will make that and not have to work that much.  course thats all depending on your lifestyle,  how materalistic you  are.  how much money you let your family blow,  etc.

college is a universal answer that everyone believes in, but in the real world,  its not all that and a bag of chips for the majority that go.  and you can easily make what collage grads make with a whole lot less debt. and not be thrown into that debased, immoral,  godless environment that makes up most collages in this country now adays.
 
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I would spend a lot of time WWOOFing on as many farms as possible - look for ones that are off grid or do things that you are interested in.  We've had several wwoofers go on to move back to the city after spending just one summer on some farms.  And we've had folks who were just using it as an interesting vacation and have now decided to farm for a living.  You just never know until you get there and get your hands dirty and live the life.

And I have a college degree and use it to make my bread-and-butter.  For me, it was totally worth it.  For 90% of the other people I know, they would have been better being in the work force.  What college degree would you go for?  If it's just to get a piece of paper, skip it.  If you are apt at engineering or something like that, it may be worth it.
 
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I'm currently interested in a Physics degree but have many other degrees I'm looking at such as History, Agricultural Science, Economics, Political Science, and Aquatics. The farm related degrees I could easily learn WOOFing and it would be a lot cheaper but it isn't for just a piece of paper, it is to learn, which is one of my favorite hobbies. I would also be interested in housing engineering also.
 
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