Win a copy of Permaculture Design Companion this week in the Permaculture Design forum!
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education experiences global resources the cider press projects digital market permies.com private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • r ranson
  • Anne Miller
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • Jocelyn Campbell
  • Mike Jay Haasl
  • Burra Maluca
garden masters:
  • James Freyr
  • Joylynn Hardesty
  • Steve Thorn
  • Greg Martin
gardeners:
  • Carla Burke
  • Dave Burton
  • Pearl Sutton

Should I prune this?

 
Posts: 141
Location: Northern Wisconsin
9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator


This is a tart cherry tree that I planted last spring.



Now some branches(?) are growing up from the root crown area.  Should I cut 'em back?

I'm posting this in "lawn care" because the location of this tree makes it a part of a lawn.

This is a tree planted in the front yard of a corner, city lot.  If I had a few acres I would probably just let it do whatever because I'd have a bunch a trees.  Here, I am thinking of city esthetics for resale value.

I'm also just beginning to learn about tree guilds (thanks to permies).  Any recommendations for a small, front yard tree guild?

Thanks.
 
pollinator
Posts: 1454
Location: Midlands, South Carolina Zone 7b/8a
34
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I would like to see answers also.  Conventional 'wisdom' has always said that those are suckers, you should prune them, etc. etc..

But here I am learning that things are often the opposite of conventional 'wisdom'.  I thought I read somewhere about rooting and transplanting those - something else I have never done.

One of my apples has sent up a sucker about 4 feet from the tree!

So what does everyone think?
 
                            
Posts: 43
Location: Pennsylvania, Zone 5B
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Seems like those will eventually deny light to the plants that will hopefully be guilded along with the tree in the future. If you are planning to create a guild, the tree will probably have to be kept in "an open shape" to allow light in to the other plants.
 
                            
Posts: 43
Location: Pennsylvania, Zone 5B
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Also it just occurred to me that if this is a dwarf or semi dwarf tree (it sounds like this is the case because you said you planted it last year, it's definitely not from a seed!), it's going to be on some other rootstock, so the suckers aren't really even the same plant as the rest of the tree. They might even be able to eventually out-compete the desirable part of the tree.
 
Posts: 201
Location: Germany/Cologne - Finland/Savonlinna
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Don't prune them. Break them near the stem but not near enough to accidently damage the tree itself and leave them on the stem. Cut them off next year otherwise the tree will produce new shoots.
 
Travis Halverson
Posts: 141
Location: Northern Wisconsin
9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
@decev: It is a dwarf and the suckers do look different from the cherry branches and leaves.

@Dunkelheit:  Thanks.
 
Jan Sebastian Dunkelheit
Posts: 201
Location: Germany/Cologne - Finland/Savonlinna
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
No problem. The tree wasn't buried deep enough. When the rootstock gets light it will produce shoots like this. Always happens with cherry trees anyway. In colder climates they naturally grow nicely in a bush form but for other reasons. Can be very productive and easy to harvest.
 
Travis Halverson
Posts: 141
Location: Northern Wisconsin
9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I was told that the root crown needs to be partially exposed when planting a grafted tree.  This is incorrect?
 
Jan Sebastian Dunkelheit
Posts: 201
Location: Germany/Cologne - Finland/Savonlinna
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Yes, this is incorrect. You always plant a tree in the same depth as it was growing before. Some trees need a little mound to grow on like walnut trees or high-stem roses, some need to be planted in a depression. But you never actually change the level where the tree stem has contact with the soil. Grafted or true seed doesn't matter in this case.

True is, that the grafted tree parts shouldn't have soil contact. The grafted part would take root, which brings undesired consequences for the tree with it.

Hope this made any sense.
 
Posts: 137
1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Prune it. Remove those suckers and it will give your tree more energy to develop
 
Humans and their filthy friendship brings nothing but trouble. My only solace is this tiny ad:
Heat your home with the twigs that naturally fall of the trees in your yard
http://woodheat.net
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!