Better World Book second printing, pre-order dealio

Leslie Farmer wrote:Set up on PayPal or Patreon so we can buy now???

First, you can buy the book now from here:  https://permies.com/bwb

Next, we will set up this special offer by the end of the day, but this is a pre-order purchase that goes with this new printing.  So the books won't arrive until the books have been printed, shipped to us and then shipped to you.

Since you brought it up, I have two patreon accounts:

      paul wheaton podcasts

      paul wheaton videos


...   but my patreon stuff is unrelated to this offer

gregory dale wrote:I could not afford to buy 10 it's far beyond my economic situation but would definitely buy 3 or 4 copies if it's cheap enough it's the shipping out side the USA that's the killer for me

Some day my book might be picked up by a big, fancy publisher who will translate it to 50 languages and distribute it all over the world.   At the moment, it is just me and I have no clue how to ship this stuff any cheaper.

Heather Alison Cook wrote:Id have to read it before seeing if Id buy 12. If it can really change the world and not just another slightly different take on permaculture then hell yes Id buy 12 and give them out for XMas. Terrific idea! Make them cheap if you can. gonna order one now. Thanks

Get one today here:  https://permies.com/bwb

Dunia Rick wrote:Is there any way to group shipping and bring down the price for Europe , or even set up a publish and distribute here........I'd be good for 12-32 copies...also how about the idea of adding (sponsored) adds to links products stuff you like to bring down the price? A few extra pages at the start and end could bring in a lot.... love the book, read it in New Zealand

The cost of shipping outside the US is nuts.  And I have no idea how to mitigate that.  Maybe someday a fancy publisher will solve all of that.

Gorbusch Home wrote:I would go with eBook. Sadly give away is a Problem due to the fact that it would need Translation into German languageWould be great if there is a Person in this Community good enough with Englisch to German Translation to do this Job.

Physical books from you are a price Problem not due to the price per book but due to shipping costs.
Mabe it makes sense to use amazon Programm "create space" in order to get it shipped at a lower price and reaching more people. In such a case where shipping really get's a drop i most likely go with a physical book

The whole thing with the german translation is way beyond me.  And I don't touch amazon because I leave that entirely to my co-author.  Is the book not currently available at your local amazon?

Dean Bennett wrote:Paul I would love to take a 1/2 box, but I fear that when they hit customs in Portugal I’ll be charged with an additional bank busting tax. Are you able to be ‘selective’ about what you write on the declaration form?

I would say 80% of my attempts to ship stuff to portugal has been rejected.  If you are willing to pay the massive shipping costs about three times it might eventually get to you.

T. Down wrote:Interested, but again, the shipping makes it beyond my budget.
Is this book sufficiently relevant to other climates globally to be worth nearly doubling the cost to people who live outside the US?

Is your priority to sell within the US?
Might it be worth selling slightly more expensive to the US market to enable the book to be more affordable globally?

I have no idea how to solve the shipping cost thing.  

Having a strategy other than trying to find a way to simply get it to people on the freaky cheap is for people far smarter than me.  Or maybe people willing to dedicate a huge part of their lives to selling the book in super smart ways - all of my attempts to carve off a massive slice of my life to do this has had miserable results - I have learned that I suck at it.  

Creighton Samuels wrote:Actually, I had just given away my last copy last week and was thinking about ordering more when the Daily hit my email today!

Also, after giving away my last copy, it occurred to me that I must have given away my signed copy, and I don't know when or to whom.  I was kinda bummed about that.

I think I still have a few that Shawn and I have signed.   It seems that I should get this small box of about 20 copies to last a few years.  What would be a smart price to get 20 copies to last 5 years?

Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Many people interested in this book in Europe ...
If only a bookseller could order a very large box, to lower the shipping costs ...

I got a small box (6) of books here when it was new. I gave all of them away. From reactions I got I know people who read it enthusiastically.
I had one book of my own (with messages written in it by Paul, Shawn and others). That one I did borrow out to a friend ... I already miss it now. Hope she will give it back soon .

I wonder if a bookseller that is anybody but me would be willing to sell the books so cheap?  So even if we found somebody in europe, they might just keep selling the books for $18 a pop.  

Joan Candalino wrote:How would this effect affiliate link pricing and kickback?

For this pre-order thing, there would be no affiliate stuff.  

Right now, all the paths we have for the book have a 50% affiliate fee.   Since the paypal fees come out of my cut, you would actually get more for the books than I would:  https://permies.com/bwb

I unfortunately can’t afford to buy twelve right now.. but I’d love to have a few! Would anyone else want to buy six and split the order with me? If Paul allows split orders, of course.

paul wheaton wrote:50*72 + 7*160 + 4*256 + 2*256 = ...

3600 + 1120 + 1024 + 512 = $6256

It's on!  We crossed the $5000 line!

Yay! I could absolutely find a dozen people to give these away to. Maybe some Little Free Libraries here and there as well...

Tessa Crowther wrote:I unfortunately can’t afford to buy twelve right now.. but I’d love to have a few! Would anyone else want to buy six and split the order with me? If Paul allows split orders, of course.

As long as one person does the transaction, what happens after that is up to that one person. So if you and your neighbor get a dozen and split it once it arrives, that's fine with me.

For some reason no "thumbsup" showing for me on any posts.
Here's One Thumbs up for 12

Steven Lindsay wrote:For some reason no "thumbsup" showing for me on any posts.
Here's One Thumbs up for 12

I think on mobile view it might be "+1" - which i think is a bug ....

paul wheaton wrote: And I don't touch amazon because I leave that entirely to my co-author.  Is the book not currently available at your local amazon?

The paperbook is currently Not available at Amazon.de
I will Check Others source and otherweise go for the eBook First.

i am interested in ordering the dozen to give away

yep I'd buy 12!

BTW I just love the title! It calms me down every time just reading it.

I looked on The site for the book.  I would suggest also adding a pdf format.  Some don't do audio.  Some don't do Kindle for various reasons.  I love getting things in pdf format.  It offers flexibility.  I guess you could lose some on those who share it though.  Is there a way to protect that format? I am not sure.  Looks great.  Can't afford currently but will put on !y list.

Gorbusch Home wrote:The paperbook is currently Not available at Amazon.de
I will Check Others source and otherweise go for the eBook First.

If you place an order at buildingabetterworldbook.com, I can get a paper copy to you.

If anyone outside the US wants to sort out some sort of bulk purchase, contact me on my website and we can have a conversation to try and sort out something that works for both of us.

If you're in the US, please buy from Paul through permies. I'm not coming here to try and scoop up his sales. I just know the international stuff is tricky for him and I can help with that.

Thanks again to everyone who has been so supportive of this book!

i will buy 12 books and i would pay even more

I just found out that the extra cost for me to send a case outside of the US is about $200, not the $100 I guessed.

Gorbusch Home wrote:The paperbook is currently Not available at Amazon.de

I have now sorted through a messy situation. It should be up within 72 hours.

Can 32 books be shipped to a residential address in the city of Midsayap, Philippines?  The postal code is 9410.  The shipping company of choice is LBC Express.  Here's the address and phone number for one of their stateside offices: 7058 N. Cedar Avenue, Fresno, California, 93720
(559) 779-6774.  Please inform the agent of the weight and dimensions for the accurate quote, for both options: surface ship and air.  E-mail me directly.  Do you still have that same mailing address in Missoula?

Jack Nelson wrote:Can 32 books be shipped to a residential address in the city of Midsayap, Philippines?  The postal code is 9410.  The shipping company of choice is LBC Express.  Here's the address and phone number for one of their stateside offices: 7058 N. Cedar Avenue, Fresno, California, 93720
(559) 779-6774.  Please inform the agent of the weight and dimensions for the accurate quote, for both options: surface ship and air.  E-mail me directly.  Do you still have that same mailing address in Missoula?

How do the books get to the shipping company?

Is there a link that will be posted to submit our order for this special offer?

Shawn Klassen-Koop wrote:

Gorbusch Home wrote:The paperbook is currently Not available at Amazon.de

I have now sorted through a messy situation. It should be up within 72 hours.

It's now available via Amazon.de.
Price is fine for me.

Ordered!  Thanks again Duke of Permaculture!  I can't wait to hand these out.

I've found eshipper.com to have the best shipping rates

For me, the cost of postage is the prohibitive factor. Is surface mail available?

Edward Lye wrote:For me, the cost of postage is the prohibitive factor. Is surface mail available?

I don't know what that means.

Yes, the shipping is nuts.  

If you want just one or two books, Shawn has stuff set up with amazon all over the globe.  But that's a "print one book at a time" thing.  Expensive.

What I am doing is getting 10,000 books printed all at once - this makes it so that I can get a better price per book.  And then I can ship via media mail in the united states, which is pretty cheap.  

I'm okay with shipping overseas, but I have not found a way to do it cheaper.  I suppose that there could be somebody in a different country that could get 10,000 more printed and they have access to cheap shipping.  But I cannot think of a way for that to work out.

About half the people that said they would put coin in have put their coin in.  NOW is the time!   I am paying the printer NOW!

paul wheaton wrote:

Edward Lye wrote:For me, the cost of postage is the prohibitive factor. Is surface mail available?

I don't know what that means.

Yes, the shipping is nuts.  

If you want just one or two books, Shawn has stuff set up with amazon all over the globe.  But that's a "print one book at a time" thing.  Expensive.

What I am doing is getting 10,000 books printed all at once - this makes it so that I can get a better price per book.  And then I can ship via media mail in the united states, which is pretty cheap.  

I'm okay with shipping overseas, but I have not found a way to do it cheaper.  I suppose that there could be somebody in a different country that could get 10,000 more printed and they have access to cheap shipping.  But I cannot think of a way for that to work out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_mail

Edward Lye wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_mail

Can you give me a link to a carrier with rates?

paul wheaton wrote:

Richard Huff wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:Click on the thumbs up for this post if you are willing to pay $72 to get a dozen books (+$50 for outside the US)

I have one question, when can I order the 12 books. I'm still a working person, but I would love to be able to share these for Christmas. Yes, I have read the book, parts of it several times. This would simplify my Christmas shopping immensely.

You can order them now here.

To get in on the cheaper pre-order thing-a-ma-bob, I guess you have to wait a bit.   If we get $5000 worth of "thumbs up" then I will offer pre-orders at the prices above.  If not, it will probably be at a higher price.

For those in the US concerned with shipping costs, why not send them Media Mail? Much less expensive and has a maximum weight of 70 lbs. See: USPS Media Mailhttps://www.usps.com/ship/mail-shipping-services.htm

All the US packages will be going out via media mail.  That is one of the reasons that the US price is so cheap compared to the international price.

Is there any way to buy the books other than Pay Pal? They want to keep my card info and I just want a one time purchase.

Jerry Sledge
Rockwall, TX

Bitcoin?