Natural ways to regrow teeth--save thousands of dollars, avoid mercury/etc. and grief of dentist

I just posted these on another thread that's in a less relevant section, but thought it's important to put here.

I just had a tooth thing and thanks to a wise friend's suggestion I googled. And boy did I find a lot.


On youtube: search for

Truthergirl

comfrey and eggshell regrow teeth

mainstream sources about regrowing tooth matter:
LAtimes
UKtimes (I think)
google "lasers and regrowing teeth" and "peptide and regrowing teeth"

Just think it's a good thing for people to be informed and try on another perspective before deciding what you do. I'm not a dentist, evaluate for yourself.


This could help you if you don't have dental insurance. This could help you if you hav edental insurance that doesn't cover crowns. This could help you if you DO have dental insurance but want to save your teeth, and not have further problems caued by fillings (one of the articles quotes an expert saying that it's a losing battle of fill and drill). And it's more pleasant.

I looked at the X-ray of my tooth, and i saw the roots winding down into my gum, and I saw the shell, and I thought, This is a living being, I am going to save this living being. No way am I letting them touch him. (I guess I think my tooth is male). I felt so much love for my tooth, and awe that I was finally seeing what had been right in front of me all along.

Bones can heal, why not teeth?

Thoughts, experiences anyone?

Hope this helps someone.

I'm doing my own experiment and will report back when I have some clear results.

This has turned from a frightening thing to a very empowering one, I feel.

How's is he the tooth doing?

Well, comfrey is also known as 'knit bone'.
I guess it is valuable any where there is a calcium problem.

hard to tell much yet. I had a tiny black mark on a front tooth, hoping to see that go away and give me an indication. I think it'll take several weeks before there's visible change. thanks for asking, i'll keep you posted.

THere is a guy named Doug Simons. He makes a DVD about natural dentistry. He says the most important herb is horsetail, equisetum hyemale. I google imaged it and found some near a creek. I transplanted it to my yard. You can eat it and many people mentioned that their teeth grow back. Doug is on many health podcast summits on the computer. Check him out:
http://alternativestodentists.com/horsetail/

I also read a book at the library that talked about Weston Price and how people with the right minerals in their diet never got cavities. I don't remember the name of the book, but it was similar.
John S
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Come on guys and girls give s recipes. I read or hear that comfrey is not good to be eaten, please elaborate.

Last year, I had a dark spot appear on the front face of a tooth near the gumline.
I didn't go to the dentist for some time (money, as usual!)
and when I did go, I fully expected them to 'do something' about it.
But-huzzah- the tooth had actually 'recalcified', and the spot was now just a mark under new enamel
According to the dentist, my dental hygiene must have been extremely consistent and very thorough-
Mmm, ok, sure...
Not very enlightening I know, but I think diet played a big part-
I was eating way too much sugar/refined carbs for a while, then I stopped.

I haven't tried this, but what I have heard is adding egg shell powdered into things like a banana smoothy to your daily meals. Then swishing comfrey tea for a period of time daily as well. The advice also noted to take something known as a liver cleanser at the same time to help counter the continuous use of comfrey on your liver. Another aspect was oil pulling, though I have read that oil pulling has proven less effective in testing than swishing mouthwash for the same period of time. Your call there.

So you actually drink comfrey tee? or just use it in your mouth and then throw it out?

About egg shells, i would for sure use them if i have natural grown chickens in my backyard but i dont have them. And i try to avoid any artificial food, and i m afraid egg shells from store are artificial. This chickens are fed with growth hormone and filled with antibiotics, so it actually you could get more harm than good.

P.s. dont ask me what i think about eggs for breakfast from that chicken...

Yes, swish with comfrey ROOT tea (or just grind up a fresh root and add a little bit of water) for 20" daily and spit it out--try to get the little bits out of your mouth too since it's hard on liver. And grind up an organic chicken egg shell daily, in banana smoothy is a good idea because the banana will suspend the bits of shell in the water, and eat daily. That's from naturalnews.com I think, I forget the exact address but if you can do youtube, search on that--someone made a video out ofthe article and there are responses from some people who used it sucessfully.

If you don't have "organic" chicken eggs (as I don't) maybe someone you know has their own chickens? they're pretty likely to be willing to spare you the eggshells! if not, make them an offer, it's still cheaper than going to the dentist and better for you. As for hormones and antibiotics, if they don't have actual heavy metals in them the shells shouldn't harm you, they just might not be as good for you...i can't imagine the eggs in Croatia are as bad as factory farmed eggs sold here. And if you're not comfortable with that, maybe now's the time to take hte plunge and own chickens--teeth are super super important, taking care of them has a cascading effect of health on your whole self.

YEs, Weston A Price researched diet's effect on teeth--Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. He was looking at the causes of teeth health and decay--and nutrition is essential not just for fixing teeth but for having good health all around. His research was done with a minimum of bias or distortion, in my opinion, and I've seen the nutritional guidelines he discovered to really work.

For repairing teeth that are already out of whack, these things have been indicated:

calcium
magnesium (dolomite for these two)

MSM (sulfur compound occurring in some foods)

knitbone/comfrey swishing
swishing with sea salt to stimulate saliva (saliva actualy carries minerals to the teeth, as well as being selectively bacteriostatic)

This is all just stufff I remember, check my sources, I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice or dental advice, I'm not a dentist, etc. ect. (But I am MY primary dentist and I am free to do what I see fit for me.)

one thing I have noticed is that recalcified dark spots dont really disappear, they just stop growing larger, which is fine by me. I just want to know that my tooth decay has stopped as tooth decay is an outward sign of other health problems. when my dentist probes they no longer stick with a probe.

Weston price diet is mainly to credit. thank you for the comfrey advice, will put that to use someday.

I think this is quite an interesting subject. In AP Biology, right now, we are reading Your Inner Fish, and in the section where it talked about teeth, it mentioned that tooth enamel is made of hydroxylapatite.

Maybe not particularly useful at the moment, but just interesting, mullosk shells have been proven to help with tooth remineralization.

On that note, I looked up the chemical formula for eggshells which is mostly calcium carbonate which is about the same thing corals and mollusks are made of.

I looked up the formula for tooth mineralization which is:
Ca10(PO4)6(OH)2 <----> 10Ca(2+) +6(PO4)(3-) + 2OH(-)
(source)

So, I think the rebuilding recipes above work because:

-Eggshells contain calcium carbonate which can be broken down into its calcium and carbonate ions; Calcium ions are now available

-Comfrey is known to contain phosphorus which is most likely contained as phosphates because of the phosphorus cycle; phosphate ion are now available

-Saliva is at a pH of roughly 6.2-7.4 which means there are going to some hydroxide ions available; hydroxide ions are now available

When these three ingredients (calcium ions, phosphate ions, and hydroxide ions) are in excess above the equilibrium values, the system shifts in reverse to create hydroxylapatite.

I think I figured out how those recipes work. I hope this is useful.

Some have mentioned that eggshells aren't bioavailable when consumed by humans, but if you put them in the soil of your lettuce or other vegies, they can make them bioavailable to become part of your bodies' health.
JohN S
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Doug Simons has been interviewed on some health podcast summits. His DVD is for sale at chanchka.com

Sally Fallon Morell is on youtube explaining the Weston Price ideas about nutrition and dental and other health

I don't think there is a central location where these videos are available, and Cassie isn't even on this thread. She has nothing to do with it.
John S
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Hi!

So how has your tooth healing gone?

In particular what have your results with Comfrey root-containing Calc-Tea been, and what frequency, dose and preparation method did you use?

Thanks!

So I have begun to have some tooth problems and would much prefer to fix them myself but am in search of links, my problem is thus, my wisdom teeth are coming I and I suspect my jaw has not developed as fully as I'd like, but one is pushing against my the nearby molar and causing pain as well as loosening my lower incisor, can someone provide links to where I might learn how to remedy this issue?
I will end up going to a dentist eventually to get my retainer removed from when I had braces

Probably the best solution would be to go back in time to fix the food supply your parents ate. Your jaw should have formed in a way to allow a full tooth development, and a mineral-rich diet would promote this for your parents and for you as a developing fetus. You can make things better for the next generation even fi you can't fix this yourself with an ideal solution.

Devon Olsen wrote:So I have begun to have some tooth problems and would much prefer to fix them myself but am in search of links, my problem is thus, my wisdom teeth are coming I and I suspect my jaw has not developed as fully as I'd like, but one is pushing against my the nearby molar and causing pain as well as loosening my lower incisor, can someone provide links to where I might learn how to remedy this issue?
I will end up going to a dentist eventually to get my retainer removed from when I had braces

Thank you for the reply Joshua I had kinda assumed at 21 it may be a little late to get my own jaw to grow properly... For the next generation then I suppose

Devon Olsen wrote:Thank you for the reply Joshua I had kinda assumed at 21 it may be a little late to get my own jaw to grow properly... For the next generation then I suppose

Not always true. Just as any bone structure can adapt over time, so can the jaw and teeth. It's a matter of how you go about that. If your wisdom teeth are coming, your mouth is changing, if it's changing you have a chance to better the process of that change.

21 honestly is still fairly early for anything. No matter what you still don't have as many problems and cumulative toxins in your body as most people do. There are quite a lot of useful answers on this thread that would be helpful if applied, so I have nothing to add on that note. But considering the fact that the human body replaces it's cells every 7 years, and more often, the majority every 6 months, teeth are a simple matter. Simple, but not easy though. You just have to remember that this is a matter for health, not convenience. The two parts of the body that require the most long-term treatment to heal with natural methods are the teeth and eyes, even with research available today.

There is also one more thing that can help with remineralization - low current electricity, between 1 and 2 Mghz. Spot has to be stimulated with it for about 20 minutes a day. There were cases, where it even grew new teeth after extraction. I think, our bodies should get enough nutrients too though for that to happen. Medical establishments actually use machines given out by prescription with this current for people with broken bones to help them heal faster, and they can help for some people to avoid amputation (in cases where bones refuse to fuse together and then infection sets in.)
Now the interesting thing is, that most miracle healings occur, where sustained awareness is put on the body part, that needs healing, which if you try, you can see, that if you focus on any of your body part without thoughts (meditation kind of way), it starts tingling, so it is possible, that it creates similar current.
Maybe using mineral rich diet and supplements plus daily awareness focusing (or electric stimulation) would be the best way to heal teeth (and anything.)

Years ago my sister-in-law was shot in the leg in one of those random, stupid accidents. It shattered the bone and after a year it still hadn't healed. The doctors finally put a low electrical current through it for a month or two and it healed fine. I don't know all of the specifics but my father-in-law told me that the technology dates from the 1920's. It went out of favor when penicillin came along, along with a lot of other old ways of helping the body to heal. I got the impression the doctors used it only as a last resort because it isn't "how we do things now".

Mick Fisch wrote:Years ago my sister-in-law was shot in the leg in one of those random, stupid accidents. It shattered the bone and after a year it still hadn't healed. The doctors finally put a low electrical current through it for a month or two and it healed fine. I don't know all of the specifics but my father-in-law told me that the technology dates from the 1920's. It went out of favor when penicillin came along, along with a lot of other old ways of helping the body to heal. I got the impression the doctors used it only as a last resort because it isn't "how we do things now".

It is just sad, that they waited a whole year to do that, when they knew it was available. I am trying to find this kind of device, and we can buy used one, that is meant for healing bones, however manufacturer set it to be used for 47 times only, so people couldn't use it themselves, and would have to pay their exorbitant price again. They sell similar frequency beauty machines for the skin, but they come from China, and I am not sure they are made well and truly have the frequency they say. I wonder, if they are hard to make from parts we can buy. My dad is engineer, he would make his own radios from parts, maybe he could make one for me...

for an ultrasound machine -- $60 on Amazon This might be the right thing, assuming it can fit in/close to the tooth. Worth the money to experiment if you have nothing to lose:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1001861191

electrical stimulation ("electronic" is what they say)--intednded for back massage, but again I think it could be easily modified. Not endorsing either of these, just sharing the first hits I came to when I looked on the internets.

http://www.amazon.com/Tens-Handheld-Electronic-Pulse-Massager/dp/B007TOJ948

for electrical stimulation, I think an author hylda clarke (sp?) gives specs for building machines, it looked like a bunch of work.

Joy Oasis wrote:

Mick Fisch wrote:Years ago my sister-in-law was shot in the leg in one of those random, stupid accidents. It shattered the bone and after a year it still hadn't healed. The doctors finally put a low electrical current through it for a month or two and it healed fine. I don't know all of the specifics but my father-in-law told me that the technology dates from the 1920's. It went out of favor when penicillin came along, along with a lot of other old ways of helping the body to heal. I got the impression the doctors used it only as a last resort because it isn't "how we do things now".

It is just sad, that they waited a whole year to do that, when they knew it was available. I am trying to find this kind of device, and we can buy used one, that is meant for healing bones, however manufacturer set it to be used for 47 times only, so people couldn't use it themselves, and would have to pay their exorbitant price again. They sell similar frequency beauty machines for the skin, but they come from China, and I am not sure they are made well and truly have the frequency they say. I wonder, if they are hard to make from parts we can buy. My dad is engineer, he would make his own radios from parts, maybe he could make one for me...

Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:for an ultrasound machine -- $60 on Amazon This might be the right thing, assuming it can fit in/close to the tooth. Worth the money to experiment if you have nothing to lose:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1001861191

electrical stimulation ("electronic" is what they say)--intednded for back massage, but again I think it could be easily modified. Not endorsing either of these, just sharing the first hits I came to when I looked on the internets.

http://www.amazon.com/Tens-Handheld-Electronic-Pulse-Massager/dp/B007TOJ948

I also looked at those, but didn't seem to be sure what is their frequency. It has to be 1-2 range.

My update--I have the hole in my tooth still, but it's been steady state for a year plus now.  Once or twice at some point a small chip did come off other teeth (front teeth--the one with the hole is the rearmost molar) when I poked them with a toothpick too hard, which indicates I still have some remineralization to do.  At some point there had been an additional tiny chip that came out of the hole, which I knew only because the gum hurt more from stuff pressing on it when I chewed, signifying something had become more exposed.  But overall not much of a problem.

I do have to pick stuff out of it.

I'm satisfied that it makes sense to wait and see what regrowth treatments become available.  I'm not in a hurry.

I'm glad I didn't go for the root canal, or the crown.  It just gives me the willies.  And I'm so glad for all I've learned about healing small cavities, and just how mutable teeth really are.

I clearly have some stuff to rebalance about my gut biome, tummy aches and such, and this can affect mouth biome too.  Not sure what to do--I do eat plenty of yogurt, home-made kefir, and pretty frequent sauerkraut.  Maybe I should do daily inulin (chicory root seems viable, I like adding a little to yogurt, and since it's dried it is easier to store than sunchoke roots).  Inulin is a 'prebiotic" that supplies bacteria that feed on it, whereas the human enzymes themselves don't digest it.  I have no specific knowledge that this is connected to teeth in particular, it's just another line of thought that seems likely to have some connection.

It's possible that I could rebuild the tooth with the comfrey/calcium thing if I did it longer, I'm not ruling that out.  There may be other factors that I didn't address.  I may need still more silica than the horsetail regimens I did gave me.  

There are accounts of people regrowing a tooth from scratch on some of the comments on some of these youtube videos--the comfrey one I believe.  

Many, many biological dentists are very clear that a root canal is a bad idea. It never heals, so you always have a rotting hole full of unhelplful bacteria.  

I also haven't really noticed my teeth refilling even with the horsetail. I was just chastised at the dentist for not flossing, so that may be part of it.

I have also resolved to brush longer but more gently and to avoid acidic foods (like wine) within 30 minutes of brushing, because it will wear off the enamel.

We'll see.
John S
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could making a toothpaste with minerals help?

for baking soda i read that it will dissolve dental calculus. just a bit of it on the toothbrush or finger will bring a good cleaning.
you can swish your mouth with 1/5th teaspoon baking soda in a glass water. it will neutralize acids, bring the mought to alkaline/basic and cleanse from toxins.

you can use minerals as scrubbing agent in toothpaste. diatomaceous earth, clay powder and stuff like that. but they re kinda harsh on the tooth enamel, so i won t use them too often.

I just wanted to drop a quick note here about some of the terms, and what is conventionally understood to be possible.

First: tooth decay occurs when bacteria infect the structure of the tooth, releasing acid which softens the tooth structure. Over time, this softened structure is worn, eaten, and dissolved away, which produces a hole - literally, a "cavity".

When something causes the infection to stop, the decay is said to be "arrested". The textbook cause of decay being arrested is from immaculate oral hygiene and a tooth-friendly diet, which keeps down the level of food and sugars in the mouth and starves the bacteria, so they die or go dormant. Antibiotic agents can also arrest decay, the best studied of which is Silver Nitrate, with use going back centuries, and Silver Diamine Fluoride, which is widely used in Japan and recently has been approved for use in the states. There are a ton of interesting papers about that here. The Doug Simons approach appears to be arresting decay with herbal mixtures (and of course, a healthy diet).

Once the infection is treated and the decay process stops, you are left with a tooth that is still soft where it was being eaten away by acid. Over time, the mineral-rich saliva in your mouth causes this softened tooth structure to harden again. After the area is clear of infection and has been hardened, the decay is fully arrested. This will typically be very, very dark in color.

However... there isn't a lot of evidence for people having tooth structure *grow back*. I won't claim it is impossible, but I've never seen documentation of it, and knowing how teeth are formed, to me it makes sense that they cannot regrow structure. Once you have part of the tooth missing, that isn't going to come back. If you have a hole that food and plaque get stuck in, you'll need to take very, very good care to clean that for the rest of your life or it will get infected again. Sometimes, dentists who have read the most recent literature will be willing to do a small amount of drilling on the tooth to open the hole up slightly so that it doesn't trap food, and can be cleaned more easily with a toothbrush.

So, teeth can "grow back" in terms of becoming hard again, but they don't really "grow back" in terms of filling in holes.

The other big thing to be aware of is that sometimes the decay and infection goes deep. If the decay gets too far in, arresting it or even treating it with a regular filling becomes much more difficult or impossible - and the tooth is going to die. At this point, pretty much the only options are to have the tooth extracted, get a root canal, or just wait for it to rot away and fall out (which is painful and dangerous).

On the surface of teeth is enamel, which is incredibly hard, and underneath that is dentin, which is very similar to bone in structure, and is much softer than dentin. Both of these are softened and disappear during the decay process, and both of will harden again with the arrest of decay. But once you've lost enamel (the really hard stuff), it isn't likely to come back. If somebody has discovered a technique to truly grow back missing dentin or enamel, it would be wonderful, and you would want to dig pretty hard to make sure it was the real deal before you got too invested in it.

I am trying to save what teeth I have left, ha! Irish have notorious softer teeth, and mom was a great chef and baker, dessert every night! Hard habits to break, but I cut out most sugar, glutens, yeast, I do have some raw milk yogurt for fermenting foods, I try to eat real foods, have been blessed with suppliers for organic meats. only a small garden, but have found a great farmer. That said, WellnessMama has 2 different recipes on her website, a powder, and a remineralizing toothpaste. She refers to Weston Price, Sally Fallon, and one other...hmmm, memory...ah, well... She also does a coconut oil swish, maybe 20 minutes a night, drinks bone broth daily, she may have more suggestions, but I have enjoyed NOT visiting the dentist.
Thankful for this community, so glad to hear the ways others are surviving! May God bless you. b

So i am no doctor or dentist, but my wife is taking courses in natural health ala dr aviva romm or dr terri wahls. We also have been curious about cancer treatment by gerson therapy and we see overlap in so much of these ideas.

I do not think gut biome is something that can be fixed by pills and a cup of yogurt. I also think it would be incredibly difficult to get research on how teeth heal because it would be difficult to find people that eat a heavy amount of local vegetables, local and wild greens, low amounts of grain, and meat. And pretty much never ever eating processed sugar or sugar outside of fruit and within moderation.

That being said, i still dont know if teeth can regrow, but im still curious if gut biome, healthy stress management, and remineralization through a local heavily veggie based diet could do something. It can remove scar tissue, remover cancer cells, reverse autoimmune disease symptoms, cure diabetes, cure heart disease, and keep the immune system crazy strong for whatevers going around. I kinda want to believe it could help bone regeneration.

The world may never know.

Mick Fisch wrote:Years ago my sister-in-law was shot in the leg in one of those random, stupid accidents.  It shattered the bone and after a year it still hadn't healed.  The doctors finally put a low electrical current through it for a month or two and it healed fine.  I don't know all of the specifics but my father-in-law told me that the technology dates from the 1920's.  It went out of favor when penicillin came along, along with a lot of other old ways of helping the body to heal.  I got the impression the doctors used it only as a last resort because it isn't "how we do things now".

In my studies to become a reiki master there was discussion of these types of machines. More specifically how research of reiki has shown that the same energetic transfer delivered by these machines is also happening when reiki is performed. The primary difference is that the energy from the hands of a reiki practitioner is going through a sin wave of frequencies as apposed to the machine that is only hitting a single frequency. The major advantage of the sin wave of frequencies is that each type of tissue needs a different frequency to be stimulated for healing. This means reiki is stimulating all of your tissues, not just the bone.  

Robin Rose Bennett's book "The Gift of Healing Herbs" has quite a lot to say about this, she actually turned her mouth around to the amazement of her dentist.  Simon's video "Alternatives to Dentistry" is very good as well.  We make and use tooth powder with Bentonite Clay, baking soda, calcium carbonate, xylitol, sea salt, ground dried sage and rosemary and peppermint EO.  My sons mouth is looking much better and daughter in law no longer has the sensitivity issues as she did.

I don't know about xylitol, I would be careful with these things! Most of us have already dental work in done, so it is more important how to preserve what's left. I eat little sugar and bone broths regularly. With that low electric current, can that do something if you already have fillings and crowns? One simple thing to add: I realised that hygiene really helps, daily flossing and something un-permie: an electric toothbrush!

Thanks jason for this one!

So, teeth can "grow back" in terms of becoming hard again, but they don't really "grow back" in terms of filling in holes.

Does anyone know a natural remedy for receding gums?

Leslie Russell wrote:Does anyone know a natural remedy for receding gums?

The products of the calcium therapy institude are supposed to be for this...
By healing the infection. it is calcium and zinc but he does not say the formula!