• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • John F Dean
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ransom
  • Jay Angler
  • Timothy Norton
stewards:
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Anne Miller
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • M Ljin
gardeners:
  • Jim Garlits
  • thomas rubino
  • William Bronson

Herbal Soap Balls from the 17 & 18th centuries

 
steward
Posts: 22673
Location: Pacific Northwest
13428
13
homeschooling hugelkultur kids art duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
  • Likes 14
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
In the How many rose bushes do you have? thread, I mentioned how I use rose petals in historical crafts, like making soap washballs. Joylynn replied saying, "Alright Nicole, where is your thread about those? "

Come to find out, I don't have a thread on them! I've mentioned them in some of my kids-craft thread (Winter Nature Crafts and Historical Disney Princess activities), but there isn't a thread with more info on them...until now!

I learned about soap washballs from Sally Pointer's video:



The ingredients you need are:
  • A liquid (rose water and orange water are historical, but you can use normal water). I bought this set of rose and orange blossum water. Most kids likes the rose water and disliked the orange. So, if you get one, get rose water.
  • Grated soap. You can grate your own, or buy pre-grated soap. I used these tallow soap flakes, because they were affordable and historical. The tallow helps kids realize one of the reasons why people added herbs.
  • Ground herbs--or herbs and a mortar and pestle. Kids love grinding things in mortar and pestles. Make sure your herbs are really dry!


The herbs and flowers I've used were:
  • Lilac -- Mine dried smelling a bit off. Use a dehydrator to dry them if you have a humid house!
  • Mint -- This is generally a hit
  • Lavendar -- Kids like the lavender!
  • Rose -- Another well-liked scent
  • Lemonbalm -- Some kids picked this, others did not
  • Elderflower -- Red elderflower doesn't smell delightful, but black/blue elderflower does
  • Sweet cicely -- Not chose frequently
  • Calendula -- Does not stay dry and is hard to grind
 
Nicole Alderman
steward
Posts: 22673
Location: Pacific Northwest
13428
13
homeschooling hugelkultur kids art duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Kids generally enjoy this activity. The mixing of the soap is goopy, so some liked using gloves. But, they like using the mortar and pestle, and it's a fun way for them to make soap when learning about the popularity of soap in the 1600-1800s.

The soap itself is nice. The herbs help it be extra scrubby--nice for stains on hands or clothes. They do wash off and land in the sink, though.

The soap balls also turn brown from the tannins in the plants. You could add food coloring or cochineal to change the color... but it might come off when washing. I'd be wary of using turmeric because it likes to stain, and beets tend to discolor over time (at least they did when I colored playdough with beets).

You don't have to make them into balls--they could be in hearts or other shapes. If you're making them for yourself, you might want castile soap for a nicer smell.

All in all, it's a fun craft, a great way to learn about history, and you get something useful out of it!
 
master pollinator
Posts: 5420
Location: Due to winter mortality, I stubbornly state, zone 7a Tennessee
2379
7
forest garden foraging books food preservation cooking fiber arts bee medical herbs
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thank you!
 
Rusticator
Posts: 9837
Location: Missouri Ozarks
5441
7
personal care gear foraging hunting rabbit chicken cooking food preservation fiber arts medical herbs homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
What a lovely project!! These would make nice gifts, too.
 
Posts: 15
5
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
You said "tallow flakes" but then acted as if they were soap? Was it straight tallow or tallow soap? I have tallow. And I have plants with sopapians (ot what that word is) and I have wood ash, and roses, mint, rose water. I was trying to find how to transform the tallow into soap. Do I need to start by leeching the wood ashes? Or is there a way without lyme?
 
Nicole Alderman
steward
Posts: 22673
Location: Pacific Northwest
13428
13
homeschooling hugelkultur kids art duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

R Grier wrote:You said "tallow flakes" but then acted as if they were soap? Was it straight tallow or tallow soap? I have tallow. And I have plants with sopapians (ot what that word is) and I have wood ash, and roses, mint, rose water. I was trying to find how to transform the tallow into soap. Do I need to start by leeching the wood ashes? Or is there a way without lyme?



Oh, sorry! I made this post in a hurry because someone had asked about the soap balls. I'm sorry if I didn't explain things well! I used these tallow soap flakes that I bought off of Amazon. They're just soap that's made from tallow. You could use Castile soap (which is made from olive oil) I have not made my own soap before--working with lye always seemed a little scary to me. I believe the first step is to leach the lye from the soap. Sally Pointer has a great video on leaching lye:



She also continued her tutorial to talk about making soap:



Once again, I've never made soap (just soap balls made with purchased soap), so I don't have much advice to give!

Maybe make a new post about making soap? You might also find more information in these threads about soap making: How to make soap without lye, soap making, Grease Cutting Lard Soap.

I hope that helps!
 
So there I was, trapped in the jungle. And at the last minute, I was saved by this tiny ad:
Support permies and give beautiful gifts to gardeners: permaculture playing cards.
https://gardener-gift.com/
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic