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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit you will wash your dishes without a dishwasher.



Here are some related threads.
  - Washing Dishes by Hand vs Dishwasher
  - Can You Wash Dishes Without Soap?
  - Low water technique hand washing dishes
  - A Way to Rinse Dishes with Little Water

Here are some related articles.
  - Hand Wash Dishes with Minimal Water
  - No Waste Way to Wash Dishes
  - How to Hand Wash Dishes
  - Washing Dishes by Hand
  - Why I Prefer Washing Dishes by Hand








To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - wash dishes without a dishwasher
      - use minimal soap
          - must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")
      - fill a dishwasher with clean dishes using less than 3 gallons of water
          - or approximate equivalent
              - might require five rounds in a small dish rack
          - yes, you are using the dishwasher as a dish drying rack

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a picture of the dirty dishes in the sink
 - post a progress picture of the dishes being washed
 - post a picture of the completed dishes with obviously less than 3 gallons water used
 - OR post a 2 minute video of you washing the dishes by hand
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We always wash dishes by hand. Used considerably less water this go round than I usually do. However, no required pic of the water used. Or one of the table as we usually eat in the living room, or in my case, carry it into the bedroom. Your call on badge bit.
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Pile of dirty dishes.
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This may be too much Permaculture According to Erica, but here's my dishwashing routine from our Tennessee shelter, two days ago.

Here's the set-up, with the dirty dishes stacked to the right.


Here's the water I started with (from our spring, running great right now)


That suck on fried egg was no match for a pine cone!





Clean!


Water left.






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I certify that this badge bit is complete!

 
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How can it be "too permie"? I think you got me whupped with my kitchen sink and appliances and such.
Good going!!!
 
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Bill Anderson wrote:We always wash dishes by hand. Used considerably less water this go round than I usually do. However, no required pic of the water used. Or one of the table as we usually eat in the living room, or in my case, carry it into the bedroom. Your call on badge bit.



I'm thinking Paul would like a picture of the water Thankfully, dishes get washed a lot!
 
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Bill Anderson wrote:How can it be "too permie"? I think you got me whupped with my kitchen sink and appliances and such.
Good going!!!


Well, this is only my set-up a month out of the year, when we're camping. I do watch other people wash dishes sometimes, though, and wonder at the water use!
 
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Dirty dishes pile up if you turn your back!
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Dirty dishes
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In progress
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Clean once again
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I certify that this badge bit is complete!

 
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- post a picture of the dirty dishes in the sink


- post a progress picture of the dishes being washed
- post a picture of the completed dishes with obviously less than 3 gallons water used


Clean dishes and sink!
   
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I hereby certify this BB as complete!

 
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Days of dishes  had piled up, stuff from making pie, from baking bread, having company for tea, etc.  Used biodegradable liquid with a felted wool sponge and then a small amount of Bon Ami and a copper scrubber for the cookie sheet.

Trick is first to go start with just non oily dishes, glass ware, in the sink, when that is done go to next dirty group of items, and second to keep the water off when washing, and to group to rinse, for example scrub off each piece of silver wear under water and set to the other side of the sink and then when they are all over to the right to turn the water on and rinse as a group.

No water was let out of the sink and all dishes were rinse with a water stream that went into the sink and I let it sit after I was done to verify none was leaking out the drain so the final water picture is all wash and rinse water used. The biodegradable dish soap was in the water and it works without showing much duds to speak of. You use less when it is in the wash water.  By the end there were 2 oily pans and the water wasn't enough, so a little was put straight on the sponge for those two itemd
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Staff note (Joseph Lofthouse) :

I certify that this BB is complete!

 
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Washed our dinner dishes in the sink. I let the water dribble into the sink as I wash. I put a bit of soap in one of the jars that needs to be washed, and use that as my soapy water to scrub with. The soap was made by a local homesteader (just coconut oil, lye, and lemon essential oil. NOT super fatted).
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Dishes (and blender) drying
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I recognize that I need to do more than this to equal how much goes in a dishwasher. Consider this part one.

 
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More dishes washed--this plus the amount in my previous post is the amount that fills my dishwasher.
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water in sink (sorry it's the wrong direction...)
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I hereby certify this BB as complete!

 
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I do this every day for work, at least 1 meal a shift. I'll include further loads of dishes as needed, though the 2 clients in question rarely need enough dishes in a single meal to fill a dishwasher. The soap was Dr. Bronners. The volume of water was less than a gallon. One of the big reasons I try to encourage the other staff not to use the dishwasher there is due to these multiple low-volume meals. It drives me insane to come in for a shift and find someone has run the dishwasher for a couple of plates, two forks and a pair of cups. Ugh!
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Drying in the rack
 
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Here we go!

We always do dishes by hand. We have a dishwasher... it's just scary... I rinse the dishes into the basin I'm scrubbing in so all of the water I use is going into the basin on the left. Again, this is how I normally wash dishes.

The first pile:



Action Shot:



First batch done:



Second batch:



Finished Dishes:



Cast Iron Greased up and Ready for Breakfast!

Staff note (Mike Haasl) :

Where's Perry? I certify this BB complete!

 
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- "This is madness!"

- "This. Is. Dishtown!
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Grey water safe soap
Grey water safe soap
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Sink o dishes
Sink o dishes
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Dishwasher full, now a giant drying rack
Dishwasher full, now a giant drying rack
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End water
End water
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It was a bit more than the green bucket (2 gal)
It was a bit more than the green bucket (2 gal)
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I certify this BB complete!

 
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Is washing soda (sodium carbonate) suitable for this BB as 'dish soap'?
 
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If it's "greywater friendly" when you're done with it, I'd say it's fine.
 
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Washing dishes I do daily. I never had a dishwasher. Most days I wait until there's more to clean, but for this BB I did it in the morning (better light for photos)


Sorry, you only see a part of the dirty dishes (most of them is on the right of this picture). But here you see how I was and what I use.


Washing part almost done


Drying with a towel


Put dry and clean things in their place

 
Put utensils in their place. Towel will go to laundry
Staff note (Ashley Cottonwood) :

Hi Inge,

Since this is routine for you, could you please post another round of you doing dishes by hand? The BB requirement is meant to be "fill a dishwasher" for the amount of dishes done. I think if you posted one more round of dishes I could certify this BB complete.

 
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Is JR Watkins dish soap graywater friendly?  This link says is is but I don't know if I trust this link.  :)

https://www.ecokarma.net/best-natural-soaps/#Best_All_Natural_Soaps_for_Gray_Water_and_Water_Waste
Staff note (Ashley Cottonwood) :

I would agree with your analysis Rob, it is not biodegradable.

 
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I actually like washing dishes.  It's relaxing.  Anyway, onto the pictures!
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dishwasher full of dirty dishes.
dishwasher full of dirty dishes.
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This is 8 cups so I get six of these. I used five.
This is 8 cups so I get six of these. I used five.
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The dishes in two gallons of water and a couple squirts of soap.
The dishes in two gallons of water and a couple squirts of soap.
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Supposedly greywater friendly but I'm going to use castille from now on.
Supposedly greywater friendly but I'm going to use castille from now on.
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initial wash on the right, holding area on left.
initial wash on the right, holding area on left.
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It's critical IMO to sanitize the sink with vinegar before rinsing.
It's critical IMO to sanitize the sink with vinegar before rinsing.
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Dishes get sanitized too.
Dishes get sanitized too.
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There's iguana marinade and other ick in the dishwasher so no rack drying.
There's iguana marinade and other ick in the dishwasher so no rack drying.
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IMO hand drying is critical to do one last dirt check and also to physically srub contaminants away.
IMO hand drying is critical to do one last dirt check and also to physically srub contaminants away.
Staff note (Ashley Cottonwood) :

I certify this BB complete. You also get an Airbadge for Nesting!

 
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Washing dishes.

Used about 2 gal of water between wash and rinse.

Had lots of hot water after doing canning. Perfect time to wash up while waiting for the canning to finish.
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Dirty dishes
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Washing
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Rack and sink full of clean dishes
Rack and sink full of clean dishes
Staff note (jordan barton) :

Hi penny
To me it looks like you would need to do one more load in order to fill a dishwasher. Otherwise it looks good.

Also based on the photo i do not see if your soap is greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says greywater safe or readily biodegradable
Do you have another photo of this showing it is greywater friendly?

 
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Hi Ashley. I will do as you asked me. Add some photos of more dishes being washed. As soon as possible.
 
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Okay. Here I am again. I saved a lot more dirty dishes this time.


Dirty dishes are going to be washed


First load


Drying (with towel) and putting them where they belong immediately, so there's space for more


Start of the second load (yes, that's still the same water, nothing added)


Last item of the second load. Now I'll dry this too and put it in the cupboards.


And the water is still OK for cleaning the sink and countertop (imo)

I hope this will do to get the BB
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Hi Inge, can you comment on what soap you use? Per the requirements:
- use minimal soap
- must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")

 
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Hi Inge, can you comment on what soap you use? Per the requirements:
- use minimal soap
- must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")


I used a small amount of Ecover. It's in the first series of photos. I'll show that photo here again.

In the middle you see the dish-washing liquid. It says: "Ecover essential Natural perfume Lemon (and then words meaning Dish washing liquid) with plant-based and biodegradable ingredients."  
It writes on the bottle (at the back side):
"Over 35 years of green know-how and sustainable science goes into every bottle of Ecover, since we had the vision of a clearer clean back in 1979." That's the only English on it. Ingredients and other information are in Dutch, German and French. Difficult to translate. But it's all natural. The lemons for the perfume are organic.
I hope this is OK.
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I certify this BB complete

 
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