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Dave Burton wrote:This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit you will wash your dishes without a dishwasher.



Here are some related threads.
  - Washing Dishes by Hand vs Dishwasher
  - Can You Wash Dishes Without Soap?
  - Low water technique hand washing dishes
  - A Way to Rinse Dishes with Little Water

Here are some related articles.
  - Hand Wash Dishes with Minimal Water
  - No Waste Way to Wash Dishes
  - How to Hand Wash Dishes
  - Washing Dishes by Hand
  - Why I Prefer Washing Dishes by Hand








To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - wash dishes without a dishwasher
      - use minimal soap
          - must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")
      - fill a dishwasher with clean dishes using less than 3 gallons of water
          - or approximate equivalent
              - might require five rounds in a small dish rack
          - yes, you are using the dishwasher as a dish drying rack

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a picture of the dirty dishes in the sink
 - post a progress picture of the dishes being washed
 - post a picture of the completed dishes with obviously less than 3 gallons water used
 - describe the soap used, its grey water friendliness, and a link to the verifiable biodegradeable dish soap
 - OR post a 2 minute video of you washing the dishes by hand



For this BB, I used the Oasis All-Purpose Cleaner / Dish Soap at the Fisher Price house:
[https://www.bio-pac.com/oasis-biocompatible-cleaners/oasis-biocompatible-all-purpose-cleanerdishwash/](https://www.bio-pac.com/oasis-biocompatible-cleaners/oasis-biocompatible-all-purpose-cleanerdishwash/)

This evening we had bread soup bowls for dinner, so there were plenty of dishes to take care of afterward. I included two photos of the measuring cup with the soapy water — one showing the starting amount, and the second showing what was left after all the dishes were washed.

Everything was gently rinsed and then loaded into the dishwasher to dry. The cast iron skillet got a proper seasoning afterward as well.
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Dish soap I used
Dish soap I used
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Dirty dishes
Dirty dishes
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Dirty dishes
Dirty dishes
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Dirty dishes
Dirty dishes
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Just shy of four cups of soapy water to be used
Just shy of four cups of soapy water to be used
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Action pic
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Remaining soapy water
Remaining soapy water
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Staged washed dishes, ready to be gently rinsed and placed in dishwasher rack to dry
Staged washed dishes, ready to be gently rinsed and placed in dishwasher rack to dry
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Clean dishes placed to dry
Clean dishes placed to dry
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Clean dishes placed to dry
Clean dishes placed to dry
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Skillet reseasoned
Skillet reseasoned
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Clean sink and counter...
Clean sink and counter...
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Note: Wash more dishes. Enough to fill a dishwasher.

 
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Submission flagged incomplete

Dave Burton wrote:This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit you will wash your dishes without a dishwasher.



Here are some related threads.
  - Washing Dishes by Hand vs Dishwasher
  - Can You Wash Dishes Without Soap?
  - Low water technique hand washing dishes
  - A Way to Rinse Dishes with Little Water

Here are some related articles.
  - Hand Wash Dishes with Minimal Water
  - No Waste Way to Wash Dishes
  - How to Hand Wash Dishes
  - Washing Dishes by Hand
  - Why I Prefer Washing Dishes by Hand








To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - wash dishes without a dishwasher
      - use minimal soap
          - must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable")
      - fill a dishwasher with clean dishes using less than 3 gallons of water
          - or approximate equivalent
              - might require five rounds in a small dish rack
          - yes, you are using the dishwasher as a dish drying rack

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must:
 - post a picture of the dirty dishes in the sink
 - post a progress picture of the dishes being washed
 - post a picture of the completed dishes with obviously less than 3 gallons water used
 - describe the soap used, its grey water friendliness, and a link to the verifiable biodegradeable dish soap
 - OR post a 2 minute video of you washing the dishes by hand



For this BB, I used the Oasis All-Purpose Cleaner / Dish Soap at the Fisher Price house:
[https://www.bio-pac.com/oasis-biocompatible-cleaners/oasis-biocompatible-all-purpose-cleanerdishwash/](https://www.bio-pac.com/oasis-biocompatible-cleaners/oasis-biocompatible-all-purpose-cleanerdishwash/)

This afternoon we had our Christmas dinner, so there were plenty of dishes to take care of afterward. I included two photos of the measuring cup with the soapy water — one showing the starting amount, and the second showing what was left after all the dishes were washed.

Everything was gently rinsed and then loaded into the dishwasher to dry.
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Dish soap I used
Dish soap I used
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Dirty dishes
Dirty dishes
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Started with 3.5 cups of soapy water
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Action shot
Action shot
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Action shot
Action shot
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Remaining soapy water
Remaining soapy water
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Dishes clean ... staged and ready to be gently rinsed
Dishes clean ... staged and ready to be gently rinsed
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Lightly rinsed and staged to dry
Lightly rinsed and staged to dry
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Lightly rinsed and staged to dry
Lightly rinsed and staged to dry
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Additional pic shot
Additional pic shot
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Ran out of room in dishwasher and staged on rack to dry ...
Ran out of room in dishwasher and staged on rack to dry ...
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Clean sink
Clean sink
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Note: obviously less than 3 gallons water You need “obviously less than 3 gallons water” All water must be documented. You are missing the rinse water.

 
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Trying again with a different soap. I did more research on greywater safe soaps and found this one. I bought a small bottle of it at my local Walmart.
https://www.seventhgeneration.com/blog/dos-and-donts-greywater-systems

I used empty ice cream buckets to measure my water usage. Each one is a gallon and I filled them between halfway and three-quarters of the way.
Entire dishwasher is full to the brim with clean dishes now!
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Sinkful of dirty dishes
Sinkful of dirty dishes
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Soap used. Link above.
Soap used. Link above.
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During.
During.
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Dishwasher full of clean dishes to dry.
Dishwasher full of clean dishes to dry.
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Buckets of water used. This is after I finished washing, each one had a little more in it to begin with, but not much.
Buckets of water used. This is after I finished washing, each one had a little more in it to begin with, but not much.
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Washing a ton of dishes by hand (no sweat), with greywater friendly soap (check), with 3 gallons of water or less (OMG 😱).

Not sure how to put photos online with text here,  but Photo 1 is my soap, Meyers Clean Day.  Photo 2 is my sink and counter with dirty dishes and pots.  And Photo 3 is my 3 gallons of water.  At this point, I am thinking I will just need to be mindful compared to my usual running-water-guzzling style.  

Photo 4 is 1 gallon of water in the sink and the first batch of dishes.  I am beginning to feel genuine concern.  Photo 5 is of my water jugs.  Photo 6 is after I added another half-gallon water. Its getting done,  but I am faced with the fact that I truly am a water hog.  

Photo 7 is clean but unrinsed dishes on left side, and Photo 8 a measly gallon of rinse water on the right.  Why didn't I start with something easy,  like a hugelkulture???

Photo 9 is my rinse water after rinsing,  and the last few really gross pieces (gotta love teenagers and their honey mustard addiction).  Photo 10 is the rinsed dishes on the right side of the sink (this load did not include the bread slicer,  it was still there from yesterday).  

Photo 11 is how I do most of my pans. I used a little of the rinse water,  and heat it up on the stove,  then pour it out, and scrubbie a bit, and they come out great.

Photos 12 and 13, pans clean and all the rest of the dish load.  

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