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This was my first BB that was actually kind of hard. I’m more used to using unlimited soap and hot water than I thought. I don’t mind hand-washing and I don’t mind using Bronner’s soap, but three gallons is t very much water and I was using it at room temp. If I were doing this again, I’d heat some of it.

I filled a three-gallon glass carboy with water so that I couldn’t go over. It was kind of a drag to use, but it worked out.

I don’t have a traditional dish-pan, so I used my bean pot to hold soapy water and cycled the dirty dishes through it. A few plates and pan lids and stuff wouldn’t fit, so just scooped it out as needed. And then rinsing was the real chore without using up all the water. Some dishes felt a little oily after this process, so I wiped them down with a paper towel until they seemed clean and out them in the drainer.

Once all my “normal” dishes were done, I decided to play with the two cast iron pans that I had dirty, not really expecting it to work without hot water. I had about 3/4 of a gallon left and so I scraped them first with a bamboo edge and then used a little water and some scrubbing in several small iterations. And it actually did work out. The bigger pan was still a little oily, but that just goes in to the next layer of the season. (Those two pans are in the hot stove so you won’t see them in the pic of the finished dishes below.)
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This was the sink before dinner; a few more dishes were added before I washed.
This was the sink before dinner; a few more dishes were added before I washed.
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Three gallons of water.
Three gallons of water.
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Bronner’s Castile soap. I don’t see on the label that it’s safe but lots of lists online say it is.
Bronner’s Castile soap. I don’t see on the label that it’s safe but lots of lists online say it is.
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The things in the sink are still dirty and many of the things lined up on the counter are waiting to be rinsed.
The things in the sink are still dirty and many of the things lined up on the counter are waiting to be rinsed.
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Advanced mode; oily pan!
Advanced mode; oily pan!
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Finished dishes drying in the dishwasher as a drain-rack.
Finished dishes drying in the dishwasher as a drain-rack.
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Empty water supply. I could have used a little less than the whole three gallons but I gave the bean pot an extra-thorough rinse since I don’t normally soap it.
Empty water supply. I could have used a little less than the whole three gallons but I gave the bean pot an extra-thorough rinse since I don’t normally soap it.
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Hello,

this is my submission for: PEA-Badge-Nest  - washing dishes by hand with biodegradable soap and saving the water for another Badge.

this is the link to the soap I used: https://ca.melaleuca.com/productstore/cleaning-and-laundry/lemon-brite-hand-dishwashing-liquid



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Hey skip team! After a big Halloween party, I had many pans and pots to wash. I used 2 scrubbies and a tiny bit of doTERRA's new dishsoap, a plant-based soap with essential oils. *sniff* mmm! dished smell so good.
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lotsa dishes
lotsa dishes
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me scrubbing away
me scrubbing away
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about a gallon of water used in the soapy water
about a gallon of water used in the soapy water
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about a gallon of water in the hot rinse water
about a gallon of water in the hot rinse water
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stack of clean dishes
stack of clean dishes
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I was super skeptical about this, having worked as a restaurant pot-washer, where TONS of soap and a constant stream of scalding water are the order of the day. Because I was feeling nervous, I started with the scraping step from wash a dish without soap and I had really good results. Used a wee bit of Dr. Bronners and exactly 3 liters of water (~.8 gallons), two of my 1.5 L kettles.
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Dirty dishes
Dirty dishes
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Washing the stickiest one!
Washing the stickiest one!
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Clean dishes!
Clean dishes!
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More clean dishes!
More clean dishes!
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Leftover water
Leftover water
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I don't have a dishwasher, and I wash dishes daily, so this might take a couple tries to meet volume requirements.

Daily, I use about 2 qts room temp water (red-handle jug), 1+ qts boiling water (from glass kettle on stove), and 1-2 qts from blue dispenser for rinsing larger items that don't fit in dish pan well, I think that's about a gallon each time?

So I give you three days of dishes for three-ish gallons. I use blue Dawn dish soap that goes into our greywater system.

https://classiccleaners.net/11-amazing-uses-for-original-blue-dawn-dish-soap/#:~:text=Expert%20cleaners%20at%20Classic%20Cleaners,and%20it%20contains%20no%20phosphates.
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This morning, dirty
This morning, dirty
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This morning, done
This morning, done
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Yesterday, dirty
Yesterday, dirty
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Yesterday, done
Yesterday, done
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Monday, dirty
Monday, dirty
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Monday, clean
Monday, clean
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Note: must be greywater friendly soap (the soap usually says "greywater safe" or "readily biodegradable". Dawn is not greay water safe: The Environmental Working Group gave Dawn a 'D' grade because of it containing methylisothiazolinone, which is a "High Concern: acute aquatic toxicity

 
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Oh no!! I've always been told blue dawn (but not the other colors) is good! Heck, they use it to wash oil-slicked birds!

Hmm, okay, this is going to be even more educational than I expected. How about Dr. Bronners baby unscented? That's available where I live. I have very low scent tolerance, so changing products is always a gamble for me. Thanks!
 
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Dawn Dish soap has small amounts of petrochemicals: https://upgradedhome.com/is-dawn-dish-soap-safe-for-septic-systems/  There are many types of Dawn Blue.  The advertising says that it is septic safe  but I have my doubts, long term.  You asked about Dr Bronners.  Yes it is safe.  You will need to cite the website because it is not on the bottle.  Best of luck with the next go.  
 
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Cool. I finally tracked down a link, I'm going to post it here so I can find it again in a few days: https://www.ewg.org/guides/cleaners/2602-DrBronners18in1HempPureCastileSoapBabyMild/

Question: how many dishes fit in a dishwasher drying rack? I just got the ebook which is awesome, and I want to come to the signing, so I'm trying to get bb20 right away! (Paul is such a master of motivation!)

Thanks,
Alexa.
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Best wishes for your BB quest.  Here is a link you may wish to look at: https://www.ellisjamesdesigns.com/is-dawn-dish-soap-non-toxic/
BTW, well done on getting your Air Nest Badge.
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We normally wash our dishes right after use, which prevents us from needing any soap at all. But here is the link that shows the ingredients and eco-certifications for the product:

https://shop.drbronner.com/collections/all/products/peppermint-pure-castile-liquid-soap#scent=Citrus
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Dishes to be cleaned
Dishes to be cleaned
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Progress pic showing less than 3 gal of water used
Progress pic showing less than 3 gal of water used
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Clean dishes
Clean dishes
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Clean sink
Clean sink
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Less than a teaspoon used of soap
Less than a teaspoon used of soap
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Replaced Dawn with Dr Bronners, resubmitting. Three days worth, less than 3 gallons total used.
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1/31 before
1/31 before
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1/31 after
1/31 after
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1/28 before
1/28 before
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1/28 after
1/28 after
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2/2 before
2/2 before
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2/2 showing normal water usage
2/2 showing normal water usage
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2/2 after
2/2 after
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I had a large-ish load of dishes to do this evening so here are some pictures. We have a dishwasher but we don't use it, we do the dishes by hand every day.

I used dish soap from the Unscented Company. It is certified biodegradable from the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development Canada, test number 301 for ready biodegradability. You can read about the certification on the OECD Website
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These dishes are dirty
These dishes are dirty
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Action shot
Action shot
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All dishes done
All dishes done
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Dishwasher is full!!
Dishwasher is full!!
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Refill box of soap that I was using
Refill box of soap that I was using
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Back of box - Biodegradable OECD logo near the bottom
Back of box - Biodegradable OECD logo near the bottom
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Our dishwasher's pump broke last month so It seemed like the best time to actually do this one because I would've kept putting it off.

I washed everything over a 20qt (5 gallon) storage box. The goal was to keep the water under half as that should be only 2.5 gallons. I was fortunate enough to not have anything really greasy and kept everything below the holes drilled on the sides(it's a long story, but the water never got that high so no cheating here)
Soap used:
Dr Bronner's baby unscented castile soap
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Everything in my sink. this is...maybe 30% of the dirty dishes, everything else was scattered around the house/kitchen
Everything in my sink. this is...maybe 30% of the dirty dishes, everything else was scattered around the house/kitchen
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Starting on the cups
Starting on the cups
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After hunting down and washing all our cups here's the top row
After hunting down and washing all our cups here's the top row
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Water at this point
Water at this point
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Here's the first part of the washed plates. Some were hiding in the dishwasher when I started since they were covered in grime when the pump failed.
Here's the first part of the washed plates. Some were hiding in the dishwasher when I started since they were covered in grime when the pump failed.
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Plates and bowls cleaned! Bowls were hiding on the kitchen island since the sink was full...
Plates and bowls cleaned! Bowls were hiding on the kitchen island since the sink was full...
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Top and Bottom Racks stuffed with the clean stuff
Top and Bottom Racks stuffed with the clean stuff
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The forks and knives too. Mostly from the bottom of the sink...
The forks and knives too. Mostly from the bottom of the sink...but some were in the dishwasher when I started since they were covered in grime when the pump failed.
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Finally, the water at the end. Side view because the bubbles made it look worse than it was.
Finally, the water at the end. Side view because the bubbles made it look worse than it was.
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Today's dishes...
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Dirty dishes 1
Dirty dishes 1
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Dirty dishes 2
Dirty dishes 2
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In progress
In progress
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Water used, sink not drained
Water used, sink not drained
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Clean dishes
Clean dishes
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Soap used
Soap used
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So I had a ton of tupperware leftover from my chili, so it was dish time. I used Dr. Bronner's Sal Suds soap. Here is the link that describes it: https://shop.drbronner.com/collections/all/products/sal-suds-biodegradable-cleaner. It is an all natural, biodegradeable soap with no dyes or preservatives.
For my water, I had a leftover 1 gallon milk jug that I used to measure out the water, I did 2 and almost 3/4 jugs, to be below the 3 gallon threshold.
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Dirty dishes in sink with 3 gallons of water and the 1 gallon milk jug I used to measure
Dirty dishes in sink with 3 gallons of water and the 1 gallon milk jug I used to measure
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Dirty dishes, sponge, and Dr. Bronner's soap
Dirty dishes, sponge, and Dr. Bronner's soap
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Clean dishes!
Clean dishes!
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Leftover water
Leftover water
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Alright, so this is take two of my dishes attempt. I corrected two previous errors: 1) I had over a dishwasher full of dishes and 2) I posted pics of my soap, however I ran out of Sal's Suds and grabbed some 9 element from the store. Here is the link https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Dishwashing-Eucalyptus-Cleaner-Bottles/dp/B08QTZSCPC

I have used 9 elements before, it doesnt produce a ton of suds, but cuts through most grease and stains.
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Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
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Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
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Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
Dirty dishes about to go into sink. A full dishwasher load.
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Dishes and water, so many dishes the water was covered.
Dishes and water, so many dishes the water was covered.
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There is the water!
There is the water!
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Progress photo of my dishes being done.
Progress photo of my dishes being done.
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Water was measured with my 1 gallon empty milk jug.
Water was measured with my 1 gallon empty milk jug.
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Dishes and water
Dishes and water
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Dishes and water
Dishes and water
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9 element soap
9 element soap
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9 ingredients, all plant based
9 ingredients, all plant based
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