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Hi everyone!  I am wondering what could be wrong with my broccoli leaves?  They have brown spots, and where the spots are the leaf is paper thin.  Also, my many Swiss Chard plants have really suffered with a lot of holes ( probably slugs though I couldn't catch them), But they also look shriveled though I kept it moist.  I thank you so much.  I am a beginner and have been slowly learning....not giving up, though I have experienced failure after failure...lol.
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Leaf borer of some kind. They lay their eggs inside the leaf and the larvae eats the inside of the leaf, creating those hollow spaces. If you press in the hollow spaces you can probably find the borer and squish it, but that's a temporary solution at best (particularly if you have a lot of brassicas).
 
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i do the same with my swiss chard
if it is bad i remove affected leaves
place in a pile on stone/concrete/asphalt
then grind into mush with my heels
for smaller amounts i pinch out damaged areas and squish any leaf miners i come across
it needs to be repeated several times to be effective
 
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Whatever the problem, the chickens will be part of the solution.  My girls love swiss chard.  They'll convert inedible leaves into eggs and manure for fertility in no time flat.

So to hijack your thread title: what could be right here?  Chicken food!
 
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Unless you have no chickens....lol.  Maybe next year.  Thank you everyone for the responses.  I don't see any leaf borers.  I am wondering if it is sun damage after spraying soapy homemade insecticide.  We still have temps in the 90s.  Could be leaf borers though, and I just don't see them.
 
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Clare Morgan wrote:Unless you have no chickens....lol.  Maybe next year.  Thank you everyone for the responses.  I don't see any leaf borers.  I am wondering if it is sun damage after spraying soapy homemade insecticide.  We still have temps in the 90s.  Could be leaf borers though, and I just don't see them.



You won't see them. Feel the leaf gently where it's colorless, feel around and if something is squishy under your fingers you've found it. You can pull the leaf apart and take a look at your nemesis, but simpler just to squish and ask questions later.
 
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Thank you Lauren!  
 
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