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Organic Intelligence takes care of the people

 
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"Organic Intelligence" has been coined by Steven Hoskinson. Part of its roots are in Somatic Experiencing from Peter Levine. Soma means body.

I used the best term I thought about in relationship with permaculture, and also because we can instinctively understand what it means. When we discover a bit more of the biology and physiology of ourselves, animals and plants, we deeply know that there is more intelligence there than only in our "I think, so I am"!

We cannot deny that we can see around that non organic chemistry is less efficient than organic chemistry. Organic chemistry is all that contains carbon atoms and forms organisms. LIFE. Carbon organizes life structures and specific-to-species fractal forms that multiply, grow, extend, repeat themselves. Permaculture is more than about organic agriculture, because it sees the necessity of design, which for me means organisation, or even upstream organisation. Not only our thinking brain is not the only organising master, but it is also part of our physiological/organic body. Some brilliants minds concluded that we have to use this mind to tend creation as other living beings do, and that we have to take care that our brilliant mind can also go too far into some organisations that in the end start to disorganize the biology on earth.

If we speak of intelligence, we mostly think of "reason", though we can see now that plants develop a form of intelligence that is not a brain form of intelligence. Talking about animals that have a brain, then we considere intelligence mostly according to the size of the neo-cortex. But what can we think of an intelligence that is not able to see that it is loosing something when it gets seemingly more? What can we think of an intelligence that is replacing instead of adding? And is this intelligence the one that is running all life? Obviously not.

Science already brings us with enough answers to considere, if we can use this cortical intelligence to considere that there was some intelligence before we developped this one. We know we have a tri-une brain but since before we know this, history has made us despise part of our humanity and focus on what makes us different to other species. Now we can also considere that we have an organic intelligence that is not only the CNS - Central Nervous System - because aside the cortex, we have the limbic brain and the ANS - Autonomic Nervous System - and this one is the more ancient.

Each older part of the NS is still preemptive upon the next part, which means that energy goes to the ANS, limbic and cortex in this order. Who has noticed they cannot think as good when they are either tired or fighting a disease with fever, or triggered by some urgency? Who has noticed that they have said or done things they regret, when their anger goes down? (or somebody else, if you don't) What is less easy to notice is that when we use our powerful cortex to repress other needs or some "steam coming out of our pressure cooker", we are stocking up in our biology. Our society/culture has build some wonders, but has replaced some "needed needs" instead of adding the new advantages to the old ones. We could make a list of what we dropped instead of keeping it...

I have to make short cuts because this is a post, and because more informations is available elsewhere.

Do we take care of the people so well ? In a way yes, but we could do better for sure. We already talk in this forum about taking care of our food production and of the necessity to keep eco-systems for the future. Taking care of our Organic Intelligence directly, would be the theme here. What can we do in order to regulate our regulating system? How can we use our reason for making better choices here? This ANS is autonomic, which means that the cortex does not have a real direct influence upon it, though we can decide to do certain things that will allow the ANS to do its job better. Synchronicity, regulation, self-regulation, resilience, so that all our other body systems that depend upon the better health of the "chief of the orchestra" can work better.

The result is that we can get more energy for action if we regulate our emotions, that are themselves regulated by the ANS and our physiology. (of course there are also feedback loops that hide the order of importance of the 3 parts of the NS). What makes a difference for our physiology is the sense of danger or security. According to this security scale, our ANS works differently. And as the ANS is in charge of our life, it will automatically direct our energy to the alert system about what's wrong! It is needed, but not all the time. Animals in nature might live in more danger than us in a way, but they are also getting more clear clues about when they are in danger, and when they are secure. Also because we can project more into the future, we can be more triggered by danger than what is a clear present danger.

Many people have become quite sensitive, so that they can detect danger earlier. Many people have also suffered from threat and violence from beings of their own species: Compared to animals, we do not suffer that much from other species. So we miss what they often do not: support from contact, which is precisely a big part of what our biology had developped in order to let the needed time to our ANS to recover after an acute episode of threat. Instead of time and understanding, we are often told to hurry up and not take time from others! How much contempt we have for sheep for example! But the main thing they do is to be physically close, because herd species rely on this more than other resources and abilities, to recover and be able to go on living. They can focus again on eating and living until the next threat. Isolate them, and their ANS cannot do its job. Our ANS is also in difficulties when we have to recover alone. We are a tribe species. And we are also a dancing and singing species because creating a rythm together is helping us to connect and not hurt each other. Instead, we often have to walk among unkown persons and have to act as if we were among friends. We make tribe through the World Wild Web (I leave my initial typing mistake on purpose!), but the way we have to find jobs make us live so often out of not only our tribe but our close familly.

Sensitivity has a lot to do with being alert and even hyper-vigilant, and it is nergy taxing. It can seem strange to stay sensitive even during the moments of better safety, and actually it seems as if the system tells "us" "Why would I go down if I have to go up so soon again? I decide to stay up there, or go down very little, so that I will have less effort to do to go up again." We really need to feel secure enough and to go down to a resting enough state. Being secure is not enough, we need to FEEL secure, in our body, in our biology. If we have lived too long in a relative lack of security, we can even have a less good immune system, because it was not alloted the right amount of energy. No enough was available. So you might result in a slower metabolism for saving energy reasons, or you might have issues with tiny aggressors like virus or fungi or food toxins etc. then you are in a circle that is more difficult to escape from. Do not worry though, your system is making its best and has adapted for your benefit.

Now where are the solutions that are in the problem?

Remember that your ANS is also your life guard and that is thus more prone to focus on "what's wrong" than what's good? When we ARE safe though we do not FEEL safe, we might not even notice all this because our culture has never taught us to pay attention to the ANS signs. We even learn that the ANS has only to do with organ functions and "instincts" and has to be controlled, instead of having freedom to do its job. We can actually practise to notice what's good. Ask anybody "How do you feel, in your body?" (meaning not about emotions, you see, we have only 1 words for those 2 meanings!) and they will answer with a pain or a tention here and there in their body. Ask anybody to ay attention to their posture or their breath, and they will modify it! The good news is that we can also practise to pay attention to our physiology without changing it. Then we can also notice that it can change on its own, and that it happens alone, without control.

This is close to an art actually. It needs conscious practise before it can happen fluently, a bit like playing music. In some culture they still all know how to sing and dance, and they probably still have more practise than us about feeling the body so that it can do its self-regulation and settle down to a real resting state. All in life has wave shapes, especially what touches our senses, like light and sounds. Our nervous system and our cells are also electric in nature, with all those minerals that are either - or + and that creates movement, life. We live according to a circadian rythm and a seasonal rythm too. We love surfing or just watching waves, or creating waves with a stome we throw in water, watching the circles expand. What our real nature wants is to expand too! We feel pain as circles going towards us and our energy is contracting. All we want is to expand again and feel our joy as circles in the water.

The best way our intellligence can help, is by deciding to not take the role of the other parts of the brain but to communicate wisely. Our cortex speaks in thoughts and words, our limbic brain's language is emotion, but our earliest mother tongue is the felt-sense. It communicates through sensations and maps the world around us, allowing our organic life to move inside us, allowing our behaviours to happen too. Both science and practise brings us enough knowledge to bridge the gap of all that we have not paid enough attention to. It is there and it has always been and is still taking care of us even when we do not know it.

We can make its job easier, and we can also repair ourselves when we have suffered more than we could repair until now. We will not loose any of the abilities that we developped thanks to be sensitive! Those abilities are real gifts and we keep them.

If you already have found the ability to control and manage any unpleasant nervous state, you can still learn something else, which is how to let this happen without the effort /tips/tactics that you have found, so that it gets easier and save your precious energy for something else!

You can list techniques that have the ANS and the soma at their roots. There are already more than one, and though most of the ones we have access to are more or less 20 or 30 years old, they usually match many traditional ancient techniques. For cultural reasons, we have not often managed well to use ancient techniques, but when you know that they all address the regulation of the ANS, then you can more easily use them with steeady success.

Apart from Organic Intelligence and Somatic Experiencing, you can also look at Somatic Practice and ISP.

Bodywork methods like Feldenkrais and Rolfing and biodynamic cranio-sacral are also very much taking the ANS into account. I have not investigated them that much but I have noticed other techniques that take the ANS into account, like the Nemechek protocol for SIBO, or Hanna Somatics.

And without mentionning it specifically, I am sure that a lot of permies already had noticed a lot of this through their contact with nature and especially animals, but also plants now, through awareness about soil webs. All beings, all life, have evolved from the same roots and is expanding from a similar basis, though trunks and branches have separated into many twigs, leaves, spines, flowers... and primed us with all this beauty around, that we can look at better every day, for our enjoyment and our feeling to be part of the mystery of creation. Our ANS is what best in us talks the same language as the nature we can admire around us.
 
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Xisca Nicolas wrote:

Many people have become quite sensitive, so that they can detect danger earlier. Many people have also suffered from threat and violence from beings of their own species: Compared to animals, we do not suffer that much from other species. So we miss what they often do not: support from contact, which is precisely a big part of what our biology had developped in order to let the needed time to our ANS to recover after an acute episode of threat. Instead of time and understanding, we are often told to hurry up and not take time from others! How much contempt we have for sheep for example! But the main thing they do is to be physically close, because herd species rely on this more than other resources and abilities, to recover and be able to go on living.

Sensitivity has a lot to do with being alert and even hyper-vigilant, and it is energy taxing. It can seem strange to stay sensitive even during the moments of better safety, and actually it seems as if the system tells "us" "Why would I go down if I have to go up so soon again? I decide to stay up there, or go down very little, so that I will have less effort to do to go up again."

We really need to feel secure enough and to go down to a resting enough state. Being secure is not enough, we need to FEEL secure, in our body, in our biology. If we have lived too long in a relative lack of security, we can even have a less good immune system, because it was not alloted the right amount of energy. No enough was available. So you might result in a slower metabolism for saving energy reasons, or you might have issues with tiny aggressors like virus or fungi or food toxins etc.



A lot of good information in your post, thank you, Xisca! I read it carefully but I need time to let it "sink in". There is so much new information for me!

I quoted the part that I think I understood best in your post. (I took the liberty of adding a bit more paragraphs in your text so it's easier for me to discuss)

Did I understand correctly that the sensitive people have a more active ANS (Automatic Nervous System)?

Do you think sensitive people have a certain (evolutionary?) role in human communities? Like for example the stallions in horse herds are more alert and sleep less so the mares can eat in peace without worrying so much about predators?

Or do you think it's just a result of traumas that some people are more sensitive than others?

Or both/ either?
 
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Nina Jay wrote:Did I understand correctly that the sensitive people have a more active ANS (Automatic Nervous System)?


No, we all have an active ANS because it is running all the normal physiology of the body like a chief of orchestra.
But we all have differences in the activity of our ANS, and this is for sure more complex than we can imagine...
Also the cells also have responses and they have no ANS though have similar reactions. The ANS is made of cells.

Our bodies have rythms, and the ANS more than any system as it is the electric system. So it can be disregulated, whatever the cause. We also have different basic regulation from the start, and I don't mind to know the cause actually, because we do not need to know it for regulating the system, What is important is to adapt and change what is needed when we can.

What is complicated to understand is this point:
We can use our mind to do something, to decide, but NOT to modify/regulate/rewire the ANS. We have to choose what we do according to a possible result, but it must happen by itself. So we hurt people each time we ask them to make an effort for controlling a behaviour. We can short term only. The tools commonly lacking are about making things fluent and dissolve "knots" that prevent the normal flow.

Nina Jay wrote:Do you think sensitive people have a certain (evolutionary?) role in human communities? Like for example the stallions in horse herds are more alert and sleep less so the mares can eat in peace without worrying so much about predators?

Or do you think it's just a result of traumas that some people are more sensitive than others?

Or both/ either?


I have not even mentonned the word trauma, for 3 reasons:
- The ANS has been associated to "reaction to trauma", and this is a small part of the reality. We just notice the ANS less in its normal functions!
-  "trauma" has too many meanings and we do not all considere the same things as traumatic. Also, is the meaning about the event or about the defense reaction of the ANS?
- There is also some science behind transmissions from our ancesters, not only of trauma but of healing.

I stay very biological, so the ANS is a system that works with other systems in the body, so it can for sure be hurt and repaired. We do this all the time. I just want that this system be considered as much as other systems, becuse it does follow some rules.

Yes we all have roles, different ones, but I cannot say that this is evolutionary nor coming from sensitivity only, just that we have to interact with others according to who we are and what gifts were given to us. Sensitivity is not a "problem" but a feature, so each person can decide if it serves them or not, and what can be done to keep the good aspects but suffer less of other aspects (like being able to stand news as we talked in the other thread).

That is why I insist that when you heal some pain, you do not loose any gift that life gave you because you adapted to traumatic events.

What I can say is that accidents indeed impact our well being and that the way some cultures are organized makes it less easy than in other cultures to recover. That is why I mentionned some differences between us an animals. We'd better be like sheep and look for contact to feel better for example! Unfortunately some people know how to manipulate, and will profit of the need of contact inorder to ake us do what we would not do on our own. This is manipulation and does not mean our tribal and social engagement system is a defect!

The social engagement system is a feature of the ventral branch of the vagus nerve, parasympathetic so for rest and repair. It is well studied by Steven Porges in his polyvagal theory. And it is also well studied by children who know they feel better, when ill in bed - when a nice mom is sitting on their side and putting a hand on their forehead! Pets also have no shame in looking for the better places on our lap! What is it about? Feeling good.
 
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As for the point about trauma, or for people thinking they had none, or none major ones, here is a quote from Veronique Mead who does trauma study - you can look for her blog -

"Scientific American on multigenerational trauma effects - some new clues about how a father's stress before his child's conception can influence his baby's stress responses and brain development. Some of it does indeed appear to be epigenetic as has been suspected."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dads-stresses-get-passed-along-to-offspring/

I have read about the results of more studies like this, including that healing is transmitted too, in ways that are still mysterious. But it has been checked at DNA levels, to tell you how scientific they are about it and how much they search! But the best definition of trauma is not about the event, it is about the memory in the physiology. It means that nobody has been able to relate the intensity of an accident to its consequences in a totally previsible way. For those who know about the impact of having virus, sibo, mycotoxins issues, heavy metals or retinol overload... all this can also trigger reactions which deprive us from part of our energy, making us more sensitive to other stresses!

Also, Dr Naviaux is the one to search about, for his reasearch about the CDR - Cell defense response. I will post links when I find... The resume is that many things, from trauma to toxins, are all druming on the same bell, the CDR, whatever the hammer is!
 
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Not sure how relevant anyone might find this but Buudhist believe  in "dependent arising" which is to say everything is interdependent- probably more vastly and subtly connected than anyonre is aware.

From my own experience:
I have experiened insights beyond my own frame of perception, that I am pretty sure extend beyond my personal ability to address, or even know actually.

Such as if a visually impaired cat, with only one eye would be ok when it went missing overnight. I had the gut feeling, viserally tangible, it would be  found, hours before it was. I am in Washington state, said cat was in Arkansas.

My point is, we are all connected. We are all part of a living system and this system knows stuff, stuff that we don't know on the personal level of empirically based experirence.

I hope this is a relevant reply to your thoughtful post.

To restate: it seem as if we are all part of this really big living system that has a more complex and comprehensive  cohesion than we are aware of, --- examining changes in molecular structures (DNA) is akin to looking at a 'result' or a 'symptom' so to speak.  As best I can tell.
 
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Hmmm, not sure system is the right word here, I  don' t think that  word even comes close to the innate awareness that exists-- system is more lile a term I can use to wrap my head around it --- just sayin...
 
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Oh yeah, about the brain thing- you need because you're moving around... stationary organisms that are in one spot don't require it...
 
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There's a sea creature like that. It has a primitive brain when ambulatory which dissolves during tbe stationry phase of its lifecycle...
 
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De Young wrote:Hmmm, not sure system is the right word here, I  don' t think that  word even comes close to the innate awareness that exists-- system is more lile a term I can use to wrap my head around it --- just sayin...



The nervous system is a system in the same sense as the digestive system.

It means in both cases that it is physiological, organic, and that it is composed of several parts or several organs. It is the same with the immune system, the cardio respiratory system, the urinary system...

Speak about the lymphatic system... and everybody knows about it and its importance. Then mention the nervous system... especially the autonomic nervous system... and people start to talk about either the mind, psychological issues or spirituality! Either "I have no mental problem" or "I do not want to talk about science, it is about feeling it and energy".

The closest is indeed spirituality, as it was the way to understand it and live it and share it before there was anything else to explain it. In permaculture, we take action but we are also happy to know what RedHawk can teach us about soil science! And we can also talk about a living system without focussing on its issues! We need it and use it when it is healthy!

When we talk about the invisible and to be related, yes there are things out of our physical incarnation that we can contact, I do not deny it, but I say that the "antenna" for it in our body is the autonomic nervous system, ANS for short.

Actually the vagus nerve, a parasympathetic one and the largest of the 12 cranial nerves, has been compared to the kundalini energy.
 
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