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Hi! you'all. Would you suggest me an empty,free land where I can start a homestead? In europe SA.

 
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thanks :)

P.S. also a piece od land, where there is already a wooden cabin or something, so that I can live by there or rent it in the time bieng while I'm able to get to the land.
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Hi! What do you mean by S.A. and 'free'?
 
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hi! I mean South America(SA)
thanks :)
 
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Europe and South America are very different places with very different entry requirements.

And 'free' has several meanings.  

Can you explain where you want to go, and what you mean by 'free'? Free to buy for a foreigner?  Or without financial cost?  Or what?
 
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Hi Shivam, welcome to Permies, i like your enthousiasm!
Immediately in! Buy land and move into a cabin or whatever, great!
This is an international community, there are people from all countries of whom many have english as their second or third language. Even in countries with English as mothertongue there can be confusion. Australians call chickens chooks for instance, there are differences and mistakes in what people mean all the time. Therefore it's important to be patient with the people and explain really well what you mean and that you think for a bit what the others might think you mean.
Do you mean empty land, land that is for sale? Where nobody lives, but used to live and farm in the past?
Do you want forest, do you like it cold like in Finland or south Argentine do you like desert like Iceland or south Spain? Do you want to be in mountains or forest or rainforest, do you want a place where agriculture is easy? Are you looking for a place to be away from people or do you want community. Europe is quite big and south America is gigantic.You will have to be more specific because otherwise people will not understand what it is you want! Also money is important, if you have a lot, there are more places you can buy, or rent. Do you want to buy or rent? Or lease? Oh no that's cars...
 
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Hi Hugo! thank you so much for th response.
I'd like to live somewhere immediately. Nature is what matters to me. flat and curvy is okay.
By free I meant like land which is not for sale. I'd like to built it by myself but in the meantime, any area with already a wooden cabin would do so that I can rent it out and have space and time till I built.
I do not have a lot of money but enough to rent a modest place for a few months. thanks
peace
 
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Paraguay is land locked, largely indigenous, and fairly inexpensive with not much barriers to naturalization.
 
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It's an interesting question, I'd have assumed most places would require you to buy/rent the land if you wanted to start your own homestead. I know there are lots of existing homesteads where you can live and help for free, but it wouldn't be "yours" in that sense. OTOH I think there are still places in the world where people live and farm on the same land for generations without legally owning it in the sense of having papers; I'm not sure how you get into that without being born into it though. If there's a community where everyone farms land without technically having legal ownership, can a foreigner just show up and start farming on an empty spot? I'd be kind of skeptical that most communities would allow that but maybe some would.
 
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Hi Meg, that's the case in many African countries, people have no claim to the land, corrupt government leases large swath of lands to Chinese or european companies which drive the locals off into villages withe the promise of education and healthcare which rarely comes. Not a situation to strive for in my opinion.

Shivam, there is an organisation called WWOOF, it's a website for organic farmers and volunteers to find each other. In the destination section, you can chose out of all the countries and then surf to those countries WWOOFF sites. Maybe by looking at the pictures there you could find a place where it looks nice to you. A picture says more then words many times. When you chose a country you can always ask here again to come into contact with permaculturalists from that country. And later plan to travel to that country.
WWOOF
There are other sites like this too, although i'm only familiar with this one.
Hope this helps!
 
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Hugo Morvan wrote:Hi Meg, that's the case in many African countries, people have no claim to the land, corrupt government leases large swath of lands to Chinese or european companies which drive the locals off into villages withe the promise of education and healthcare which rarely comes. Not a situation to strive for in my opinion.



I agree, it sounds ideal from the perspective of one individual wanting to start doing subsistence farming but from a community perspective it opens a huge can of worms. Allowing one foreigner to start farming there is probably okay so long as they are farming more-or-less the same as everyone else (i.e. not industrial agriculture), by the time word gets around and you get to the tenth foreigner, or a single company, or a single person doing industrial agriculture, you have a problem. Chasing the first person out is probably the smart thing to do.
 
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