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Big old San Antonio yard - another urban permaculture project

 
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I've started another project, this time a large one, at my friend Ann's huge yard in a neat old part of San Antonio, Texas.  We're first starting with planting xeriscape plants in two large beds along the street in front, then we will move on to a vegetable garden in the back yard, and continue later in the front yard with a patio area adjacent to the front door and a food forest in the largest part of the enormous front yard.

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Here's a "before" shot of the front beds along the street:
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future urban permaculture garden

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Thanks to my friend's yard guy who did most of the digging, we were able to get the structural plants in the ground today.  These form the core of the design, and we'll fill in around them with other things.  Next to plant, some small trees.
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Texas xeriscape project
xeriscape in progress

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A little more progress on this project:  Mulched small vegetable garden bed and installed a worm tower.
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mulched urban vegetable garden along a fence
mulched veg garden
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Planted Sotol, Agave, and Red Yucca in the larger front bed which had been prepared by some landscaping guys.
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Sotol, Red Yucca, and Agave in xeriscape
Sotol, Red Yucca, and Agave

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Planted seeds of Tatume Squash, Red Noodle Bean, and Armenian Cucumber in the vegetable garden strip in the backyard.
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Had some problems with Bermuda regrowth in the front beds, and the backyard veg garden kinda died, but I have continued with the project, working more on the front beds, and planting roses for a large rose garden in the front yard.
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Rose garden beginning
Rose garden beginning

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Started planting the front yard food forest. Petite Negra Fig and Panache Tiger Fig, Moringa, and two Mexican Sunflowers.
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Food forest beginning

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I learn so much from your projects! Thank you for sharing. I'll be keeping track of them for when we start to plant :)

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3 more Figs and 5 additional Moringa planted, alternating along the perimeter.  More support plants will be added soon.  Esperanza (Tecoma stans) will be the primary support shrub.
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Rebecca Blake wrote:I learn so much from your projects! Thank you for sharing. I'll be keeping track of them for when we start to plant :)

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Thank you!  I haven't been working on my food forest at home for a couple years because of having to be in town taking care of my dad who has Alzheimer's.  He's 90 but his general health is so good he's likely to live to 95 or beyond, so I will be here in San Antonio for several more years.  Here's my most recent thread about projects at home: https://permies.com/t/132515/permaculture-projects/Ludi-Projects

My current enthusiasm is for the food forest at my friend's house.  Her huge yard is perfect for this kind of permaculture makeover.

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Planted three Asian Persimmons and did a little chop and drop around one of them.
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I've planted over 30 trees so far in this yard.  Now starting on some beds for annual vegetables.
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cover crop bed, Tawny Daylily, and annual vegetable bed
cover crop bed, Tawny Daylily, and annual vegetable bed

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Finished the vegetable beds that surround a grove of fruit trees in the interior of the food forest.  Now starting another series of beds on the outside of the main path.
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Annual vegetable beds
Annual vegetable beds
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Garbage trench under new bed

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This project has been a huge success.  Even though many plants and trees died back during the past winter's big freeze, most things survived. Even a couple of true tropicals which died back to the ground are regrowing from the base.  Bananas are doing especially well, one even producing a pup which I transplanted to a new greywater garden at my place.

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I love xeriscape. that's exactly what we did at my previous place. it turned into a tropical food forest jungle without having to water anything, strawberry guavas were one of my favorites.
 
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Fruits are thriving
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Bananas
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Papaya
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Fig covered in fruit

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I want to mention what I think has been the key to success in this yard and that is lots and lots of mulch.  I've been trying to keep six inches to one foot of mulch (mostly chop and drop, but some woodchips) around each fruiting plant or tree.

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Finished edging this bed, mulched, and planted spring salad vegetables. Cloches cover zinnia seeds. Sticks are to discourage neighborhood cats.
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Spring veg

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Finished initial planting of this bed for the spring/early summer season. Salad vegetables and zinnias, with some perennial bunching onions.
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Spring veg central bed
Spring veg central bed

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Finished shaping and edging the inside of the south side of the food forest and planted 5 dwarf peach trees.
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Dwarf peaches
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It's finally really taking shape.
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Food forest
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A few updates from this year:
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Food forest with moringa
Food forest with moringa
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Food forest with sweet potato groundcover
Food forest with sweet potato groundcover

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Tremendous growth!
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food forest path

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Tyler Ludens wrote:Tremendous growth!



This is incredible and such a wonderful walk-thru! Thank you for sharing this. It is very hopeful for me starting our food forest this March. Fingers crossed, knock on wood, etc etc :)

"The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command." -Samwise Gamgee, J.R.R. Tolkien

 
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Update 2025

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prickly pear and other plants in a planter in a backyard in San Antonio Texas
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Food forest plants next to a concrete sidewalk in a permacultured back yard in San Antonio Texas
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Bet you didn't know that permaculture could work so well in Texas. A young fig tree in a suburban food forest with a blue house in the background

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Hi Tyler! I'm from Houston, looking for permaculture community in San Antonio, is there anything like that here yet?
 
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Hi Carmen, sorry it took so long for me to reply.  There used to be a permaculture meetup group in San Antonio but I have been out of touch with them for many years.  Have you had any success finding a group?

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