Nancy Sinclaire wrote:Maybe I should stop searching for the impossibly complicated and now that I see your very good yet simple but inspired idea and follow that. It seems to be exactly what I was looking for. The least possible amount of fence moving.
You are very kind. I too had some complex ideas, but once I started having to move wire every day (rain, hail, or snake-infested shine) I started to chase efficiency with some serious vigour!
Nancy Sinclaire wrote:When that idea came to you and you tried it the first day and saved time and work it must of been great. Do the animals seeing the grass is greener on the other side hang around there in anticipation of the next move thus no second wire is needed to keep the back side in?
More or less - they certainly have no interest in where they have been when you expose the new grass. Because of my lack of portable water supply, I am not following them with a chaser fence, which means they can still get back to the trough. In the
other thread I figured out how much grass to give the cows each day so that they left plenty of grass from the old patch. I'm sure after a while they would go back where they had come from and start to nibble again, but it probably wouldn't be for a while.
Nancy Sinclaire wrote:If chickens followed larger animals I wonder if they too would not need a follow up wire. Your systems looks as if a moveable chicken house could follow a straight path up the right side moving every once in a while instead of every fence move. How did you eventually handle the water access?
I will have a follow up wire once I sort the water access. Now that I have figured this approach out, I don't need to go to the complexity I had previously thought where I needed to reduce the width of my paddocks by adding a second wind break. Instead, I am going to add a single (wider) windbreak on the windward side of my paddocks, and run a water supply pipe along that. I plan on putting a small capacity trough on a small trolley with a hose on a reel so that I only need a tap every 100' or so.
Nancy Sinclaire wrote:If any is needed how do you handle positioning salt or minerals?
Not really sure - I need to digest some of the excellent info provided in the other
thread to work out what (if any) enhancements are needed. I live on a flood plain, so we may be a little better off as far as minerals go as the place gets a fresh coating of silt every couple of years.
Nancy Sinclaire wrote:Your posts on a wide range of topics have been very interesting to read. I like how on this board on many different topics I am able to read the thoughts from people of many different countries, especially places where people have still been practicing the old ways. Integrating the best practices of the old ways with a design plan is interesting.
Thanks. Once again, you are very kind. I work as a software engineer, so I suppose of that engineering/systems thinking probably helps me think things through. I have a blog (linked in my signature) which has some more of my crazy ideas
I find the same thing about permies - there are so many people with so much knowledge to share.