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Jocelyn Campbell
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Hello and welcome to fungi perfecti folks!!

Lots of people are discussing the swine flu vaccination these days. For me, personally, I'd rather take my chances with combating the flu, rather than taking the flu shot or giving it to my kids.

I've heard great things about the Fungi Perfecti Host Defense extracts. Which ones might be the best for flu - either swine or otherwise? The one called MyCommunity?

I think I want to have some on hand in my herbal and other virus fighting modalities arsenal...
 
Leah Sattler
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I'm interested too. I have never got a flu shot and don't want to start now. but I can't hardly turn on a tv or radio with my daughter around because they keep talking about pregnant women dying from the swine flu  and she keeps telling me to get the flu shot! of course they never give the whole story. I think the swine flu talk is mostly hype but I want to be prepped with some natural arsenal also.

I know that eating mushrooms has been shown to drastically reduce breast cancer rates. I imagine there is huge potential as an immune system tonic.
 
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        I don't get flu shots i am not old enough yet to get the yearly flu shot, they give to the over 65 but i would if i was a risk group and they were specially recommended because of a bad type of flue.  Here they are not giving them to people of my age 55, i have an efficient friend and she is getting it, i wonder why?She would get to the front of any queue  when its not her turn, but the children's and health workers and pregnant womens aids victims etc are getting them . If your pregnant Leah you should get it, i would rather people i almost knew did not go and die.
        A greater than usual amount of children are dying from this flue I'd get the vaccination for them too. I am not crazy for medice¡nes or crazy against them, i am very lazy about doctors though, at least i don't have to pay for them here in Spain or in england.
      Any way fungi perfect should be a medicine fan, he makes them or does the first part of the process, finding fungi that will make them though it is others that do the tests to see if they are safe.
          I find that reading about natural medicines helps me believe in official ones. I never read how official ones work and that does not help me believe in them, i don't like thinking about illnesses. some people seem to even like it, they are a bit more naturally morbid than i am. agri rose macaskie
 
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I go back and forth.  quite frankly I often think at this point, going to the doc or the shot clinics at pharmacys and exposing myself to all those people is more likely to make me sick then h1n1. they keep saying it has caused more severe problems in little kids citing higher hospitalized numbers than the normal flu presents at this time, but they fail to tie in how those numbers might be affected by the fact that this particular strain has been spreading outside of normal flu season. considering that it was circulating in the summer when most 'flus' aren't it stands to reason that a higher number of kids have been hospitalized with it than normally are by this time in the flu season, it doesn't mean that a higher percentage of kid have been hospitalized with it. also it is more communicable so it stands to reason moreso that a higher percentage of the population in general is aquiring it (in comparison to the seasonal flu) and it will simply hit more higher risk. vulnerable  people and cause a spike in those numbers. I just am concerned that it is not that the flu is more deadly, just that more people are getting it and that most of this talk in the media is scare tactic...just todays convenient panic media story.  very little of the info and stats I find are thorough enough for my taste, they are all totally dumbed down adn seem to be obviously missing critical information.

in regards to h1n1 If anyone has found some stats somewhere that actually address the percentage of infected people and the percentage of serious complications, addressing the extended season and increase virulance and infection, as opposed to just flat numbers I would be interested in seeing them to aid in my decision making. unfortunatly it appears they have stopped counting cases some time ago, so i can't see how anyone could come up with accurate percentages at this point.


here the seasonal flu shot is available to everyone by the h1n1 is only available to kids 4 and under, pregnant women and those already with health problems. I still have difficulty with the idea. considering even the major news outlets are saying that it is so mild that some people appear to have aquired it and had no symptoms and many people have aquired it and didn't know because the symptoms never got worse than a cold. I had nasty phlegmy cold several weeks ago......I wonder if I already have experienced h1n1? can you get tested to find out somehow?

 
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Lleah,  I keep imagining i have the flu or have had it in a light version too. i had the sixty eight i think it was flu i have heard that reduces your possibilities of suffering from this one.
      You seem to know a lot about medicine, i know nearly nothing, i have wonder if you aren't really a vet or doctor or something. agri rpse macaskie.
 
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Hopefully you don't find this off-topic.

Elderberry extract has been shown to help against the flu.
 
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I am a big fan of sambucol! hard to say if its just placebo though.  I also used the nasal zicam till a couple of nitwits looking for attention used it improperly and the fda took advantage of the situation. that is a whole new thread that I could rage on..... down to saline now which is also supposed to be effective for standard colds at least. simple tea might hold some promise as a mucous membrane wash also....I have been considering it, so far I haven't come up with any reason why it would hurt and found several anecdotal reports of tea drinking significanlty reducing the incidence of flu.  hard to pin point what mechanism might be behind it though. could just be the hot liquid sweeping the throat.

 
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Elderberry extract has been shown to work in double-blind clinical trials.

Science doesn't deal in absolute certainties, of course, but evidence for its effect being more than placebo is much stronger than for, say, Claritin or Prozac. Some studies even show it to be more effective than Tamiflu.
 
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  i have a book on herbal remedies, with the doctors findings on how they work. The book says that cranberry works to stop cistitis because something in it catches hold of germs stopping them imbedding themselves in the wall of the bladder so they get washed out when you pee and don't get a hold in the bladder. A sister of mine says they are good for the head to, i don't know exactly what she meant, i imagined she meant for the sinuses. Maybe she meant that they stop germs from getting a hold in all the cavities in the head, that it works getting the germs washed out with flem instead of cosying down in your sinuses. Lots of the books give the medical reason for how the traditional medicines work. The how, discovered by scientists with their super microscopes that backs up folk knowledge. The book that said this about cranb erry juice is American, its called"Big Book of Miracle Cures"Corinne Netzer. agri rose macaskie. 
 
                                      
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tinctured blue elderberry for years then it dawned that a tincture and a wine are not much different except in decanting still alcohol extraction and easier to have sustainable quality especially when made with blossom and berry
 
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The thing about flu shots, is that they aren't given to the people that they protect. While a health diet will help you survive the flu and maybe not even feel sick it cannot stop you from breathing out more flu germs than you breath in (by several orders of magnitude. The Flu shot isn't to keep you from getting sick and dying, but rather to keep you from passing the flu along to someone else who might get sick and die, or pass it on themselves.
 
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