so enough about all these wimpy herbal "teas."
don't get me wrong i love herbal tea, nothing like it for after-dinner-sippin', but in the morning i need something with a little KICK in it! some CAFFEINE! coffee (or good strong black tea)!
problem is coffee (and black tea) doesn't grow here (in northern Ontario), has to be shipped in! if you wanna stay local whats a guy to do? even the wounderful dandy-lion root cant help me here!
so wise permies, i ask you, what grows in Ontario (or at least the northern states) that I can make a good morning wake-me-up-cup from?
Location: In a rain shadow - Fremont County, Southern CO
posted 7 years ago
bumping this back to the top.
anyone know of any plants that have caffeine that can be grown in zone 5b/6a?
we dont get much rain (12 in average) but i wouldnt mind babying something if needed. imo the ability to produce caffeine onsite would great, as it is one thing a LOT of people can't [dont want to] live without.
seems most of the caffeine type plants grow best in the warmer climates.
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There is a tea plantation in the US: Charleston Tea Plantation. There's nothing special about their climate and there could probably be plenty of tea plantations in the South. The thing preventing them from catching on here is the amount of human labor required out in the fields. I don't think tea has the same flavor when it is harvested by the equivalent of a riding lawn mower.
And if it grows in Charleston, you can probably grow it in a greenhouse in zone 5b/6a.
Not sure exactly what your weather looks like in Northern Ontario (other than cold), so this might not be an option for you...
I currently have a very healthy Sochi Tea plant growing at my house in western Oregon, we are a very wet zone 7.
So I would assume you would have no problem growing these in a greenhouse, or with some winter protection.
The problem with the tea bush in the greenhouse is the same as having a coffee or cacao tree there...you won't really get a significant amount of product from one or a few plants. I was planting tea in GA, where it grows readily outdoors, and had it figured out that I would need something like 15-20 good sized bushes to supply my daily dose. You only pick the young tips, regularly through the summer as it grows in flushes....sort of like clipping a hedge. Then you (for black tea) ferment and (for both green and black) dry these tips. You can see how it would shrink it down a lot.......
I find with caffeine I'm just borrowing energy from later in the day. When I have certain ferments like umeboshi plums, I get a nice energy kick without the coma that follows. Just sayin', maybe you need to question whether caffeine is really the thing you want, could be going to a lot of trouble for something that's less than ideal.
Renate Haeckler wrote:I find with caffeine I'm just borrowing energy from later in the day. When I have certain ferments like umeboshi plums, I get a nice energy kick without the coma that follows. Just sayin', maybe you need to question whether caffeine is really the thing you want, could be going to a lot of trouble for something that's less than ideal.
You take your reasonable, balanced, opinion and flaunt it some place where the addiction hasn't taken hold .
OP, Good luck, I'm way to new at this to offer caffeine advice, I hope you get it figured out.
I've found that I like the smell of coffee, more than I like drinking it. I often have breakfast at the coffee shop. I bring it with me and only buy tea. I've hauled away hundreds of pounds of spent coffee to use as mulch. The van and garden both smell of free coffee.
I'm growing WITH caffeine. (:
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