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Balancing happy chickens and "farm" needs - advanced chicken wrangling

 
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Hubby runs a small chicken egg business which allows us to qualify as a "bona fide farm".  When things are running well, we produce between 5-7 dozen eggs per day and sell all of them to people in the area, with lots of weekly, scheduled customers. To do so, he buys "PoL" (Point of Lay) Industrial Chickens raised by other small scale farmers.

We try hard to treat these Chickens as our "employees", so a policy we began early on, is that even if Industrial Chickens aren't supposed to go broody, if one does so, this need is accommodated. Last year we had two birds who did so in the usual way, but the infrastructure I used for that was already getting old, and is now simply no longer a safe option.

This year, was tricky. A bird "sort of" went broody - she was not quite consistently in the nest box, but when she came out in response to activity in the shelter, she came out all fluffy and making the "cluck, cluck" Mother Hen noise. Sigh... I didn't need this. I had never experienced this sort of "confused" mothering behaviour before.

I hatched a plan... (bad pun, sorry)

STEP 1: I decided to dog crate her right in her shelter and gave her 5 fake duck eggs. After about 5 days, she seemed to settle, but only reliably covered 4 of the eggs.
This was not going to work farm wise - my infrastructure is spread very thin due to a bunch of factors. I don't have space to house a mom with 3-4 chicks.

STEP 2: Move her crate to the brooder and give her 4 real eggs. Put 22 more eggs in my friend's incubator that lives in our hall bathroom.

STEP 3: Hurry up and wait. Occasionally check the incubator eggs for viability. Not perfect, but good enough. It's down to 16 eggs with a few of them "maybe's".

STEP 4: Fire up the brooder 3 days before hatch. First the under floor heat. Then due to the crappy weather we've been having , the wall heat also.

STEP 5: Chicks start hatching. A little white head is seen poking out in front of Mrs. Coop, right on schedule with the incubator. The Incubator hatches for about 18 hours. Thirteen live - the last 3 aren't viable.

STEP 6: 10 PM (it gets dark very late where I live at this time of year and we wanted "dark")  Warm my hot rice pack and put it in the bottom of a bucket with several rags over top. Gently lift all the chicks from the incubator - some still damp from hatching - into the bucket. Carry it up the hill to the brooder. Hubby did the honours of lifting each chick out of the bucket and into the dog crate with Mrs Coop. As soon as Mrs Coop heard the peeping, she started the "cluck, cluck, cluck" Mother Chicken call. She sucked them all in like a pro!


STEP 7: Close the dog crate door, with just a hanging waterer - this would keep any chicks from wandering the first night by accident.

STEP 8: Go up early the next morning, remove the dog crate door entirely, and leave Mom to do Mom things!


For those of you doing the math, Mrs Coop has 16 chicks to raise. She hatched 3 of her 4 eggs. This is enough to be worth the time I will have to put into keeping her fed, watered, and the coop cleaned. This is enough, that if there are even a reasonable number of females, I'll be able to make a genuine flock out of the birds. They may not lay quite as well as Industrial Chickens, as they are crosses, and they aren't sex-linked, so we'll have some young roosters that are good eating even if they aren't very large. To add to this, part way through, a hen from last year's hatch went broody, the normal way, so she's now sitting well on 10 eggs that will only be 2 weeks behind.

I'm *really* happy to have "mom raised" birds. The issue is, that we have several portable shelters for the egg farm business that are only efficient if they have 15 to 20 actively laying birds in them. With the two moms kept with the younger birds, and the two groups eventually combined, I should have acceptable numbers. The Farm needs and the Chicken needs have a chance!
 
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I love how you’ve accommodated their chickens needs! I’ve just been letting mine do what they want, and it’s not working in a way that works well for the humans or the chickens. Ended up with confused hens and rotten eggs
 
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We had a Buff Polish at one point growing up who was broody but would not stay on the nest.  The fertile eggs we had were guinea so my mother hatched something like 14 of them in the incubator to give to her.  Needless say she couldn't cover even a 1/3 of them being such a small bird herself.  Made for some interesting things as instinctual behaviors conflicted.  They were very disobedient children and I think frustrated her no end.   Eventually they ended up roosting in the trees behind the chicken house up 15 feet with her on a low branch under them alone.
 
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Bethany Brown wrote:I love how you’ve accommodated their chickens needs! I’ve just been letting mine do what they want, and it’s not working in a way that works well for the humans or the chickens. Ended up with confused hens and rotten eggs

Exactly. Every farm is different, but I hoped that by posting this it would give people ideas of ways to make it work on their farm.

We've been given a number of second/third/forth hand dog crates of all different sizes. I often use them for a broody hen if my options are limited. However, birds can easily over-heat in one depending on the weather.

However, I know of too many depressing situations where hens are left where they have no privacy for setting. In the wild, they would find a hidden spot to set, and often would have a rooster standing guard as well. I have rarely heard of a mom successfully setting in an active coop. I hope you can start planning now your next broody. I had to wing this one a little bit, but still spent almost 2 weeks coming up with a plan that I thought would work for everyone involved. Mrs Coop look and sounds soooo... happy every time I poke my nose in the brooder. That is worth it!
 
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Jay, your thread title offers an awesome turn of phrase. I can't stop chuckling. It has a ring of Monty Python perfection about it. That ought to earn a BB badge at least.

If I were an orator, I would say:

"Mr. Speaker, it is my fine privilege to rise today and confer the honour of "best phrase of the month" to advanced chicken wrangling. These words will inspire coming generations of chicken wranglers, standing forth in the service of our country as we move toward a better future.

You'll notice that the orator didn't say a single thing. Nor wrangle a chicken. Our brave new world!

Upon reflection, I think I could sell T-shirts with that logo. It has double-take powers. Cheers



 
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote: Upon reflection, I think I could sell T-shirts with that logo. It has double-take powers. Cheers


Does that mean I could take a T-shirt and embroider onto it?

                                                Advanced Chicken Wrangler

or maybe more like:

                                              Advanced Chicken Wrangler      

I think it would need to be fancier - maybe written in Chicken Scratches?

Humour aside - keeping our feathered friends happy and content with their lives, takes forethought and effort. If we want the world to be a permaculture paradise, we need to set that example. Working with nature and imitating nature  means working with *all* of nature and imitating *all* of nature - not just the bits that are convenient to us. I would be truly thrilled and honoured if *all* permies who have chickens earned the title of "Advanced Chicken Wrangler" for finding ways to fit chickens happily into their ecosystem. I know many who already deserve the title!
 
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Jay Angler wrote:

Douglas Alpenstock wrote: Upon reflection, I think I could sell T-shirts with that logo. It has double-take powers. Cheers


Does that mean I could take a T-shirt and embroider onto it?

                                                Advanced Chicken Wrangler

or maybe more like:

                                              Advanced Chicken Wrangler      

I think it would need to be fancier - maybe written in Chicken Scratches?



Is there a breed of chicken that happens to share a font name?  I was just through the available fonts on my version of MS Word, but nothing jumped out at me.  I don't know many of the flavours of chicken.  Alternatively, one could design a graphic based on chicken footprints to spell it out.  It seems you've sent me down a rabbit warren....
 
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