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Anne Miller wrote:Sounds to like you need some well place ditches especially along that road.
A picture of the problem areas would help folks to make suggestions.
Bradly Johnson wrote:
Anne Miller wrote:Sounds to like you need some well place ditches especially along that road.
A picture of the problem areas would help folks to make suggestions.
I included a couple of maps I drew on. pond is labeled and where is over flows is in light blue, the other map shows that the pond is supposed too be a meandering creek (light blue line), I marked location of the beaver dam with a red squiggle
Bradly Johnson wrote:
Bradly Johnson wrote:
Anne Miller wrote:Sounds to like you need some well place ditches especially along that road.
A picture of the problem areas would help folks to make suggestions.
I included a couple of maps I drew on. pond is labeled and where is over flows is in light blue, the other map shows that the pond is supposed too be a meandering creek (light blue line), I marked location of the beaver dam with a red squiggle
Invasive plants are Earth's way of insisting we notice her medicines. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Everyone learns what works by learning what doesn't work. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Anne Miller wrote:A contour map would be very helpful.
The problem I am seeing from you last picture is that you want the water to flow toward another persons property. Or do you also own beyond that area?
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Hans Quistorff wrote:Possibly build a spillway into the creek or ditch or both that is just above the level the bevers maintain. If it only overflows during storm events then the bever may not block it.
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John Daley Bendigo, Australia The Enemy of progress is the hope of a perfect plan
Benefits of rainfall collection https://permies.com/t/88043/benefits-rainfall-collection
GOOD DEBT/ BAD DEBT https://permies.com/t/179218/mortgages-good-debt-bad-debt
John C Daley wrote:I always wonder why people cannot work with beavers?
I am aware I dont have them near me in Australia, but since they are part of the environment and do seem to work against landowners, I read they also create benefits at times.
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C. Letellier wrote:Question will they keep building dams down stream if you get the flow out of the dam?
If the dam is the primary problem: You can install beaver proof diverters on your drain. Basically it is a long perf pipe extending out deep into the pond but held off the bottom by a bit. It is surrounded by a cage, out away from the pipe, so the beaver can't get close, so they can't feel the current from it. This pipe then runs up close to the dam and elbow up still on the water side of the dam. The height of this elbow is the minimum height you want the water in the dam to be. You surround this with a larger pipe much taller pipe that then elbows to the drain line that goes out thru the dam. This double wall pipe is designed to make flowing water noises and be the distraction and the beaver will built a major dam around it trying to stop the noise. But since the flowing water is inside a pipe they can't get to it to plug it. If you need to pull deeper occasionally you can slide a third layer capped pipe between the 2 and keep the siphon going pulling the water down deeper in the pond. On the outlet side usually they just run an open pipe. But if this turns into a problem, the outlet end pipe is extended with perf pipe buried in a bed of larger washed rocks turning the outlet into what looks like a natural spring. There are whole articles and small book written on building these systems. But summed up get the inlet current a ways away from the dam in a very quiet form and keep the beaver from getting close enough to feel the current. Some place close to the dam create something noisy to keep them paying attention there that they can't get to because it is in a semi sealed system. They can hear the problem and instinctively try and fix it. If you occasionally have major influxes you might want to put in several of these systems that progressively get bigger with different height levels. You definitely want the ones that are occasion use set up like springs so nothing plugs the bottom end of the pipe.
Oh yeah found out I'm a terrible trapped also lol set a coni bear and set it sit out for a month with no triggers set, they make such a mess and boy do they have a smell to them reminds me of wet goat lol
John Daley Bendigo, Australia The Enemy of progress is the hope of a perfect plan
Benefits of rainfall collection https://permies.com/t/88043/benefits-rainfall-collection
GOOD DEBT/ BAD DEBT https://permies.com/t/179218/mortgages-good-debt-bad-debt
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMT projects on permies Hans Massage Qberry Farm magnet therapy gmail hquistorff
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