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Let me know what trees you need/want for your projects here in Portugal, if there is enough interest in certain trees I will source, grow and sell them next year. Would be happy to take future orders too, clearly :).

I have started small this year with:
- Paulownia Shantong
- Stone Pine
- Pomegranate

All trees are grown in root training pots that airprune to reduce the chance of rootbound stock.

Please help by replying with the tree/shrub type, variety(if necessary) & volume you are looking for.

This will really help me make my growing decisions, thanks in advance peoples :)
 
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Those sound like good trees.  What native trees can you grow?
 
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I thought Paulownia Shan Tong was a hybrid between Fortunei and Tomentosa, and as Tomentosa is classed as invasive and I understand illegal to grow here, I would have thought hybrids were too.

Might be best to check...
 
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@AnneMiller, Stone Pine is considered native to Portugal, and whatever trees people need I will investigate the viability of growing them.
@Burra, you are correct about the Tormentosa, but, Shantong variety is legal to grow here in PT. (The Shantong variety is not considered highly invasive like Tormentosa)
 
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Hey Mark,
I'm in Spain and currently looking for:
  • Curry tree (Murraya koenigii)
  • Yuzu lemon
  • Service berry (Amelanchier)


  • Any chance you'll find those?
     
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    Planfor, which is a French company, carry a large stock of fruit trees and will ship to Spain (and Portugal, I presume).
    For example, they have Yuzu lemon (pricey !!): https://www.planfor.es/compra,limon-yuzu,9920,ES
    Their website is available in English, but I'm not sure the English site isn't focused on the UK, which is no longer in the EU, making it more difficult to ship living plants (and seeds).
    You can get a curry tree from Entresemillas, in Málaga (also pricey!): https://entresemillas.com/plantas/1893-arbol-curry-murraya-koenigii-planta.html
    You should be able to get Amelanchier in many local garden centres
     
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    Hey Benjamin,
    I would like a Curry tree (Murraya koenigii) myself, I will get a few of these going.
    You also inspired me & I am also going to grow a few star Anise trees...

    The:
    - Yuzu lemon
    - Service berry (Amelanchier)
    look really well served in the market already as mentioned by John.

    Other sources indicate that the following will be a good start to so I have sourced some seeds already for:
    - cork oak
    - carob
     
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    I have one of these which I can send you some seeds of if you like - https://www.epicgardening.com/sichuan-pepper-plant/



    The spice is the husk, not the seed, so I'll have plenty spare. They're not ripe yet  but they're just starting to show a bit of pink colour. Chameleon not included.
     
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    Burra, that would be epic. Sichuan pepper is the weirdest sensation. I got to try a similar plant from Brasil that plays with your tastebuds, we had it as part of a flavoured
    cachasa tasting we had, cant remember the plant though...
     
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