"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
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"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
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Wayne Mackenzie wrote:Does that tool work good on trees with real hard wood like Jujubes? I think I want one.
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Bill Erickson wrote:Thanks for the tip on this thing. Just ordered (backordered until 3/10) one up from Garret Wade tools. I've had marginal success with grafting in the past because of not getting the scion and the root stock aligned properly. I prefer to use wax for a sealant, but I've used tar based stuff in the past when I lived in Coastal North Carolina. All six (I think) of my grafts did well there, but my success rate here in Montana has been one out of a bunch. I've had some volunteer root stock growing for quite a while and I really need to get something grafted onto it this year. After this year, I'll just have to let it become trees. Garret Wade also had the one to do larger size scion to root stock cuts. Like up to 1 3/4 inch large. Maybe I don't have to let them become something else.
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M.K. Dorje Jr. wrote:
Bill Erickson wrote:Thanks for the tip on this thing. Just ordered (backordered until 3/10) one up from Garret Wade tools. I've had marginal success with grafting in the past because of not getting the scion and the root stock aligned properly. I prefer to use wax for a sealant, but I've used tar based stuff in the past when I lived in Coastal North Carolina. All six (I think) of my grafts did well there, but my success rate here in Montana has been one out of a bunch. I've had some volunteer root stock growing for quite a while and I really need to get something grafted onto it this year. After this year, I'll just have to let it become trees. Garret Wade also had the one to do larger size scion to root stock cuts. Like up to 1 3/4 inch large. Maybe I don't have to let them become something else.
Bill, I hope you can have better success with a grafting tool. I prefer Doc Farwell's Tree Healing Paint for sealant because I don't like tar-based products or having to heat the wax, either. The diluted paint can also be used to coat scions so that they don't break dormancy too early. If you have dormant rootstocks with a thick diameter and some dormant scions with a slender diameter, you might want to try cleft grafting. This is how apples and pears are often grafted onto old crabapples or flowering pear trees, respectively. Many other types of fruit can be grafted with this method without a fancy tool. I'm going to try this method this year in order to graft some heirloom apples onto a crabapple down near the barn. Here's a video link about cleft grafting (similar to bark grafting or rind grafting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRBTdMbUV_A
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Bill Erickson wrote:
M.K. Dorje Jr. wrote:
Bill Erickson wrote:Thanks for the tip on this thing. Just ordered (backordered until 3/10) one up from Garret Wade tools. I've had marginal success with grafting in the past because of not getting the scion and the root stock aligned properly. I prefer to use wax for a sealant, but I've used tar based stuff in the past when I lived in Coastal North Carolina. All six (I think) of my grafts did well there, but my success rate here in Montana has been one out of a bunch. I've had some volunteer root stock growing for quite a while and I really need to get something grafted onto it this year. After this year, I'll just have to let it become trees. Garret Wade also had the one to do larger size scion to root stock cuts. Like up to 1 3/4 inch large. Maybe I don't have to let them become something else.
Bill, I hope you can have better success with a grafting tool. I prefer Doc Farwell's Tree Healing Paint for sealant because I don't like tar-based products or having to heat the wax, either. The diluted paint can also be used to coat scions so that they don't break dormancy too early. If you have dormant rootstocks with a thick diameter and some dormant scions with a slender diameter, you might want to try cleft grafting. This is how apples and pears are often grafted onto old crabapples or flowering pear trees, respectively. Many other types of fruit can be grafted with this method without a fancy tool. I'm going to try this method this year in order to graft some heirloom apples onto a crabapple down near the barn. Here's a video link about cleft grafting (similar to bark grafting or rind grafting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRBTdMbUV_A
M.K., Thanks for that video. That looks to be within my skill set. I have used Doc Farwell's here in Montana. When my former sheep got at my mini-orchard, they went after the bark like it was candy. I caught them in time but they did some ugly damage. The local nursery guy was like you and abhorred tar based sealants, gave me quite the stinkeye when I spoke about it and recommended the Doc's instead. I took him up on his advice (he's been doing this successfully in a commercial situation since I was a kid here many years ago) and liberally sealed all the chewed off areas. The trees survived and have even put out fruit more than a couple of years since. Stuff worked awesome and there's only a few scars to show the past damage. Need to get back at with the stuff again until the wound is fully scarred over on the worst of them. The new growth releases the stuff nicely.
Right now I have some scald to deal with that I'm finally paying attention again, so looking for something that is as effective as fruit tree oil or the like to get it under control. I'm not sure of the "friendliness" of some of my past methods like tree oil and lime/sulfur mixes for handling these things. No real compost pile to speak of, so not sure what to do for some of the foliar sprays I've seen referred to on here. I'll figure it out, I am sure. I listen, do and observe all the time. Any advice will be appreciated there, or I probably should start a new thread with that question.
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M.K. Dorje Jr. wrote:
Bill, are you sure you don't mean "scab" instead of "scald"? (I asked you this first because lime sulfur spray or compost spray is often recommended for scab problems in apples and pears.) "Scald" can refer to a number of disorders in apples and pears that can result in discolored fruit. Here's a link about scald from Washington State:
http://postharvest.tfrec.wsu.edu/pgDisplay.php?article=N6I2C
I just wanted to be sure about which problem you have before I give out advice from Michael Phillips (my trusted Apple Grower guru!)....
Vic Johanson
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M.K. Dorje Jr. wrote:Victor, thank you for the article. I had read years ago that the use of tree paint on tree wounds doesn't work that well for some people, so then I started using biodymamic tree paste on tree wounds instead. The recipe is a a mixture of fine bentonite clay, fresh cow manure and sand, "mucked in water to equal proportion", in the words of Michael Phillips. This stuff works for me. I only use Doc Farwell's paint for grafting purposes, although a lot of people still like it for sealing wounds- "whatever works best is what works best for you". (I hope that last part makes sense!) By the way, Doc Farwell's can also be used for sealing over mushroom log dowel holes.
Vic Johanson
"I must Create a System, or be enslaved by another Man's"--William Blake
"In a fruit forest everyone is happy"- Sepp Holzer
"...specialization is for insects." - Lazarus Long
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